Chautauqua Strike

[Brother Francis]

We know what's at stake here.

 

[Sun Devil 2000]

I'm not a scab!

DD

I think that you need to think about your definition of a scab! I am sorry that you and or some of your friends were or still are out on the street. I too, while short lived, was unemployed from my flying job. Just because you disagree with or dont understand why a certain pilot group makes a certain decision regarding their contrcat does not make them a scab.

While I am fairly new to this industry I think that everyone would agree that the pilots at Mesa are underpaid. Does that hurt everyone else in the aviation business? Probably, but, just because they are looking out for their livelyhood doesnt make them scabs. Same with the guys and gals at CHQ and SA.

While I'm sure that both pilot group's stock would go up in your and other ALPA pilot's eyes if CHQ struck and SA voted no on the upcoming contract negotaiations you are not privy to the information they will have at their fingertips to make their decision. If CHQ strikes and/or SA votes no they will be making a stand on their own terms. If they dont strike and/or vote yes they are doing, in their eyes, what they think is the best thing for them. They are looking out for themselves, an opportunity I feel every pilot deserves for putting up with all the crap in the industry.

Lord knows theres already enough pressure inside both of these airlines to do one thing or the other. So lay off and worry about
your own airline's problem.

Getting off my soap box now.

FDXFO2007

 

[Skull-One]

That's the problem with this industry, from management all the way down: We're only worried about ourselves! Nobody cares to do what is right on PRINCIPLE any more. The Band of Brothers is a myth! Perhaps if all airline pilots were Marines we wouldn't have this problem, but alas, I digress...

When will people start thinking about the benefit of EVERYONE and not just themselves? All we have is one another, period. It is our duty to think of the people who made the world better **for** us as we do our best to make the world better for those who will **follow** us.

 

[Sun Devil 2000]

I agree but ...

Skull

I agree that everyone is looking out for themselves. If you want that "band of brothers feeling" maybe you should join the Marines. I really dont think that will EVER change in this industry.

What I meant by my last post is pilots that arent privy to all the info shouldnt label people SCABS because of the decision that their airline makes. A scab is someone who crosses a picket line, not someone who works for an airline that is in the business of screwing their pilots. If I vote no but the initiative passes I did what I could. I still have to work and its not the easiest time to have principles in the aviation industry.

FDXFO2007

 

[Av8tor X]

Open your eyes people!

I am taking a stand for SKULL-1 (JS).

We all need to stop and take a good look at what is going on here at CHQ, SA, Republic and RAH. We need to take a stand for what is right for ourselves and our fellow briothers and sisters.

Wexford, ie BB, RAH etc are banking on the hope that SA will vote for Concessions. The carrot that they are using are the RJs.

For the better good of our industry and all of our careers, I hope SA pilots think long and hard about the Concessions that they(SA) is being ask of them. Consider this: the same group that ask you for something with the promise of something else( your jobs until OCTOBER and RJs) is the same group that has lied to us and has not negotiated in good faith for 2 years. This is the same group that has repeatedly violated our contract and has no regard for us as a work force.

This is the same group that is hiding their profits behind
" the PERFECT STORM" that has engulfed "most" of our industry. But remember this: CHQ is making WEXFORD huge sums of money partly due to the fact that they have stalled our negotiations and keep us working at 2001 labor rates. Now WEXFORD (Brian Bedford) is asking us to take consessions.

How can CHQ management do this: because management feels that they can enlist less expensive labor to do our job at CHQ if the CHQ pilots refuse to do the same work for less.

CHQ pilot

 

[Brother Francis]

EVERYONE MAKE A STAND NOW!

This little microcosm is directly affecting only the Wexair pilots, but it is a cancer that if not excised will metastasize and spread. The process has already begun. It started with Mesa, now us- who is going to be next?

Help us kill it NOW or it will come after YOU next.

 

[h25b]

Just food for thought.

I used to be at CHQ, back when Bedford first came to the company. The first thing he did was try and get us to sign a contract extension by dangling the RJ's in our faces.

Thank God we voted NO...

Sounds like Bedford needs to learn a new tactic... He's been playing that card forever.

 

[mckpickle]

Re: EVERYONE MAKE A STAND NOW!

This little microcosm is directly affecting only the Wexair pilots, but it is a cancer that if not excised will metastasize and spread. The process has already begun. It started with Mesa, now us- who is going to be next?

Help us kill it NOW or it will come after YOU next.

Preach on Brother! You are 110% correct. The question is what can those of us at other airlines do to help. We have to do something because if you fall we will fall next.

 

[Capt America]

FDXFO, I dont time my principles to the current climate of the industry. I have always been one to try to do what is right even if it means personal loss for me. I try to look at the big picture not the quick fix because the latter is a myth the fixes nothing in fact I believe in most cases it allows the original problem to only get worse. Integrity is a rare comodity these days. I am proud that most of the pilots at Chautauqua are of strong character and willing to put it out on the line for what is right.

 

[Av8tor X]

Mckpickle: Thank you for your support brother.

If you and I work for a common code-share partner...we're in luck!

If not....then just spread the word of our fight and solicit help from those that do have ties to us.

Together, we can make a stand and fight for our industry. Lets stand for everyone that has or will fall if this nonsense continues. Understanding,Communication, Unity and persausion are key.

If your up to the challange, please PM me and we'll talk.

Av8tor_x

 

[dav8or]

If SA takes the cuts, Bedford will just go back to the CHQ pilots and tell us to take the cut or all the new growth will go to SA. So CHQ takes the cut and SA still closes without ever seeing an RJ. Everyone losses and mgmt gets big bonuses for thier award winning management style.

 

[Av8tor X]

Good point but I feel that this issue would be addressed if We
Had "One List". Call Campo, Felice or Maloney-I'm sure they could give you a run down of what our options are.

Your statment about "we'll all lose" is unwarranted. These feelings you have are from the scare tactics that WH/BB have planted in the minds of many...don't give in.

PM me and we can talk some more.

If you are CHQ or SA, we must take an immediate stand, PM me!

av8tor_x

 

[mckpickle]

Just wondering, are any of your airplanes moving a little slower lately?

 

[Vinman]

It sounds like most of you guys at CHQ are an outstanding bunch. Keep it on.

 

[megreene]

I have jumpseated on many a mainline flights. I have come to notice one very obvious item. That is: I do something VERY SIMILAR to those guys, we make the same mistakes, we do the same checklists, we both act with the same professionalism and to the same exacting standards. HOWEVER, I MAKE A FRACTION OF WHAT THEY DO!!!!!! I make about 20,000 a year to fly 50 people at a time around the country. The other day I flew 4 legs with 50 pax each. Ask the friends and relatives of those 200 folks how much they would pay to have these loved ones around for a few more days. Their saftey was in my hands, yet, I cannot pay my phone bill due to the arrogance, greed, and dishonesty of a few in a position of power. It is time to stand up for what we believe in, and be counted as the ones who made life better for not only us, but those who come after us. Comair started the battle, we will take the next step. UNITY!

CHQ pilots will not be taken advantage of.

By the way, if you are a CHQ pilot, you MUST SEE THE FOLLOWING WEB SITE!!!!!!!!!

www.ibt747.org.com