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Well Said!!

....and then have your job offered to you only to be told that you can start over again as a newhire. Then to have your union rep tell you that there is nothing the union can do for you because of the side letter that was signed (reference IBT747.org under the CHQ section, it's pathetic).

Union Rep: "Can our terminated pilots have their original seniority back?"

Management: " NO!!" (sounds of laughter in Indy)

Union Rep: "Sounds great. Sorry for bothering you."

Later...

Union Rep: "Hey terminated pilots. We asked for your seniority, but they said 'no.' Sorry, we can't do anything more for you. Oh and if you do start over with us, your union dues have doubled."

Terminated pilot: "WTF were my union dues being used for? Oh wait, that's right. The local had to move it's headquarters from Indy to Houston. That must've been money well spent."


In case you can't tell, I don't care for management or the IBT. I do have to agree the CHQ would be awesome without those two entities.

Aceshigh
A Saab driver terminated, not furloughed, out of seniority
 
I thought that the recalled pilots were getting their seniority back. My son was one of the first to be recalled, and he is getting bumped back by the Saab pilots from PIT who had more seniority as they are being retrained in the 145.
 
Management was unfair in the case of the furloughees and that is one reason that the old MEC was vote out. Our new MEC will hang tough and I believe this will result in a fair resolution of this problem and probably the best contract in the industry.

I have found through years of experience at CHQ those who do constantly complaint are those who will not be happy anywhere.
 
I have talked to half a dozen terminated guys that have been recalled and all have received their original seniority date.

I have a call into my F/O Union Rep and we have been playing phone tag on this one for some time. All recalled F/Os should receive their original seniority date as best I can tell...
 
Can anyone speak on a few things:
How easy is it to switch from one base to another?
Any idea on the CMH schedules? i.e., stand-ups, 3 or 4 or 5 day trips?
Also, the website gives minimal info on sending in resumes/apps.
 
Skull-One said:
Which we resolved as a pilot group. All the terminated pilots are to be recalled by September with BACK PAY.

So while you guys were treated unfairly, at least your family here fought to get you back (and make you somewhat whole).

As stated previously, management has definitely stepped on some toes, but that changes nothing in terms of how great it is to work with the pilots and flight attendants here. If management sucks, so be it, but at least the crews are family...


Stepped on toes Holey crap im at coex and we had almost 400 fuloughs. If they did that stuff here I have a feeling no one would have shown up to work the next day. By the way, how many pilots/and planes you guys have now. And what are the pay scales like? say for a 6yr capt.
 
mckpickle-

We are a cohesive group. The term "family" is quite accurate. We look after our own.

I agree that to say
"...management...stepped on some toes..." is a rather profound understatement. The effects will be long-standing.

IBT took the company to court over the issue and lost. We have our opinions about that, which I will not go in to here. We did what we could, within the bounds of the law, to get our guys back. Suffice to say we did not take it sitting down and management was very effectively made aware of our fury.

Failing to show up for work, however, would have been an illegal job action and would have done more harm than good. Matter of fact some did advocate a similar course of action and found themselves adrift in some choppy legal seas.

Those of you thinking of working here-

We have called all of the 125 back. I have flown with some of them in recent weeks. The last class for them will be late Sept/early Oct.

Class 2 rumor (multiple independent sources purporting to have heard second hand from management personnel who have heard) indicates we will begin drawing from the pool in Oct.
 
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