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Legacy--I think it's a CRJ-200. But I may be wrong.TC
 
It's a -200. Had one here when Bombardier brought a bunch of their product to CMI for an open house. It was nice inside...and it was REALLY hard to stand there looking at the interior and trying to imagine 50 seats!!
 
Man that's so weird......

The CRJ is a REGIONAL JET (tm) based on a CORPORATE jet. Now that same REGIONAL jet is being use to create a new CORPORATE jet. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
 
They are not new, Bombardier has been offering them for years. Its essentially a Global Express cabin w/o the Range on a RJ budget.

CG

oops forgot the w/o
 
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Computer Geek said:
They are not new, Bombardier has been offering them for years. Its essentially a Global Express cabin / Range on a RJ budget.

CG
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My understanding was that it's nowhere near the GLEX range...it's slightly better than RJ range due to another fuel tank.
It's true, they've been offered for years but the airlines have been snatching up all of the -200 airframes so Bombardier hasn't been doing too many deliveries. Now that the airline side of things has slowed, Bombardier is marketing them a little harder.

Oh yeah, also remembered the pilots said that the Fuel Control panel is different than the airliner panel/computer.
 
Computer Geek said:
They are not new, Bombardier has been offering them for years. Its essentially a Global Express cabin / Range on a RJ budget.

CG
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same as GLEX range?

you sure about that?

I know nothing about RJs but I thought they went 3-4 hours? (and thats farkin torture)


:D
 
Anybody know how hard it would be to convert a CRJ into an 850?
Was just in KCKB dropping my airplane at Bombardier and saw about 15-20 Indy RJ's sitting.
 
LegacyDriver said:
Man that's so weird......

The CRJ is a REGIONAL JET (tm) based on a CORPORATE jet. Now that same REGIONAL jet is being use to create a new CORPORATE jet. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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The pile of poo from the chicken... and it's called the CRJ (speaking strictly from a passenger comfort view)
 
flyin4pennies said:
Anybody know how hard it would be to convert a CRJ into an 850?
Was just in KCKB dropping my airplane at Bombardier and saw about 15-20 Indy RJ's sitting.
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I would be a little more than skeptical buying an aircraft whose previous life was for a regional. I know there are several B727/737's out there that do it but do you really want an RJ with 10,000 hours and cycles? How much is going to be spent on paint/interior/SB status. I highly doubt any maitenance has been maintained while parked on the ramp in IAD.
 
Falcon Capt said:
The Challenger 850 is a CRJ-200 that is fancied up... It has nothing to do with the Global Express... Range is 2,250 NM...

Here are the specs... http://www.bombardier.com/en/3_0/3_2/popup/BBA_850fs.pdf
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ahhh, that makes more sense...2250 miles is about time the 1st crossword is done, its time to stretch, and check on the status of some fresh java!
 
2000flyer said:
I would be a little more than skeptical buying an aircraft whose previous life was for a regional. I know there are several B727/737's out there that do it but do you really want an RJ with 10,000 hours and cycles? How much is going to be spent on paint/interior/SB status. I highly doubt any maitenance has been maintained while parked on the ramp in IAD.
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Yeah,
Just came from Bombardier WVa center an hour ago and they told me that 85% of the Indy RJ's failed their engine inspections. A lot of bent/missing turbine blades and other signs of over usage. Results of excessive cycles. Not worth the $$.
 
The 850, 870, and 890 are marketed as corporate shuttle versions of the CRJ200, 700, and 900, and I suspect the represent decent value as they capitilize on the larger production runs of the airline airframes. And, for those that aren't familiar, the 870 and 890 benifit from fairly major systems improvements from the 850 (slats, FADEC, CF34-8's instead of -3's, hyd reversers vs pneumatic, maintainability items, etc etc.)

I currenty fly the CRJ, but if anyone needs a corporate shuttle pilot, I'd drop this stupid airline "career" like a bad habit!

Turbo
 
There are several companies that own CRJs as corporate shuttles, the largest being GAP clothing out in CMH.

The 850/970/890 are the same as the CRJ versions of the plane with different interior mods. Bombardier has made modifications to the interiors to allow a corporate shuttle version with 50 seats, or all business class, or split seating (first class in club config up front, then coach or business seating in the rear). I have also seen spec sheets for air ambulance/mobile hospital concepts, as well as a corporate/challenger 604 type interior.

One huge advantage the 800 series has is the number of pilots that are type rated an current in the model since it's a common type with its CRJ siblings.
 
Flyerjosh said:
There are several companies that own CRJs as corporate shuttles, the largest being GAP clothing out in CMH.
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It's actually Limited Brands out of CMH. They have two CRJ's but are slimming the shuttle fleet down to one.
 
Flying Illini said:
It's actually Limited Brands out of CMH. They have two CRJ's but are slimming the shuttle fleet down to one.
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Oops. Yeah, that's what I meant... Knew it was one of those. I hear an added benefit is that the shuttle occasionally flies some of the models around. Nice!
 
Full tanks, the CRJ200/850 can cover about 2/3s of a transcon flight still have a decent payload and reserves. I've done IAD-PHX and SEA-MSN before. Both of which were long enough for me... any longer and I'm ready to crawl out of my skin...
 
propsarebest said:
Wasn't xerox the launch customer for the the CRJ in the first place? They had CRJ "SE"'s that were executive shuttles.
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Don't know about being the launch customer but one of Limited Brands' CRJ's came from Xerox. Not sure if that's the one they are dumping though.
 
anyone know if limited brands is hiring? im sick of this airlins B.S. i know, i know im going to get B.S. anywhere but at least i wont have to deal with TSA.
 

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