UndauntedFlyer
Ease the nose down
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That would be a reasonable asumption based on your quote of the FAA Order 8700.1...but,..what's the date on that, and do you know it's current?...and has it been 'updated' to reflect the current FAR.FAA Order 8700.1, Vol 2, Chap 11,Section 1, Para 8
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flight instructors who hold an “INSTRUMENT—AIRPLANE” rating only on their flight instructor certificate are authorized to give instrument flight instruction in single- and/or multiengine airplanes for instrument certification, provided they hold single- and/or multiengine ratings on their pilot certificate.
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Not my research but it would appear to give the necessary allowance to allow CFI-IA only to give instrument training in an airplane.
I'm not supporting the position, merely speculating on the obvious wording of FAR 61.195(b)(1). I am looking for supporting evidence of this authorization.Nosehair:
I have seen much evidence that goes against your view on the authority of the CFI-IA yet you insist it is all wrong because the FAR has been changed. Yet it has been proven that the FAR has been the same for many years. So I don't understand why you are so strongly in support of the postion that a CFI-IA must have an Airplane rating on his CFI certificate to teach instruments in an airplane.
So anyway, my question to you it this: Do you know of any FSDO that would not renew a CFI-IA (only) that presented a record of 5 recommendations with 5 passes for the IRA flight test. And if any of those files came through that office from the FSDO's examiners would that FSDO reject them by saying the CFI-IA wasn't qualified. And if all that is true of that office, wouldn't the Office have an obligaton to come after the CFI-IA for giving unauthorized CFI instruction when not qualified. So can you name such a FSDO who would do all of this in support of your postion?
On the other hand, I do know that the DPA FSDO has promptly renewed such a CFI based on this activity and that was the end of it. I would guess that all FSDO's would do the same because that is the current direction from Washington based on my latest calls to them on this subject.
It isn't an "interpretation", it is black-and-white. Just because the FSDO says it's ok doesn't make it true.Nosehair, I don't think anyone else shares your interpretation of this reg. It just doesn't make logical sense and makes the CFII very restrictive.
Good question. First of all, I'll say that I personally agree with your reading of the reg on both a legal and "sense" level (teaching a single engine instrument approach in a twin doesn't require an CFI-AME? And, there is a bit of history, including, as I recall, a Eastern Regional FAA legal opinion, that supports your reading.That would be a reasonable asumption based on your quote of the FAA Order 8700.1...but,..what's the date on that, and do you know it's current?...and has it been 'updated' to reflect the current FAR.
I know for a fact that the 8700.1 sometimes lags behind in getting changed to reflect FAR changes, particularly Part 61 Certification rules. They are the lowest on the totem pole of 'FAA things to do' list.
Yep, I know. This isn't worth them worrying over. Or me either. Or anybody else, here. It goes on quite nicely,.. but be aware.the action was dropped.
Has anybody heard any news about the upcoming part 61 'rewrite'..?