CE-421B Pay

[paulsalem]

I've been offered a position flying a Cessna 421B for an organization (part 91) in Myrtle Beach, SC. I was wondering what I should ask for as far as salary is concerned. I don’t think I want to do a day rate thing, I want a steady income.

As far as the type of flying goes here is what I know so far:

• They currently airline from Myrtle to DC Sunday afternoons, and return to Myrtle Wednesday or Thursday. They do this every week. (I don’t know if I’ll be stuck in a hotel or I get to fly back to Myrtle after dropping them off)
• They plan on “moving up” to the “next level” of a/c after 3 years or so (sounds like a turboprop to me).
• “The individual that will fill this position will have full authority and responsibility for servicing the aviation needs of the organization”

I’m meeting with the person who helped them purchase the plane next week so I’ll know more then.

Thanks for you help,

PaulSalem

 

[IHateMgmt]

No less than $45K

 

[f-5]

Ask For 55k-60k, Let Them Know The Rate Would Probably A Little Lower If They Had An Aircraft That Had A Better Saftey Record, I.e. Kingair, Ect.

 

[Tonala2k]

$45k if you're pilot only. However, they're looking for an all in one. $50-60k sounds more like it.

 

[Photoflight]

just saw an ad posted for a navajo doing similiar thing for 45K.

I'd say it depends if they're gonna put you up in a hotel or let you go home and if you are on call the rest of the week as well.

Also I assume it comes with standard benifits etc..

 

[paulsalem]

just saw an ad posted for a navajo doing similiar thing for 45K.

I'd say it depends if they're gonna put you up in a hotel or let you go home and if you are on call the rest of the week as well.

Also I assume it comes with standard benifits etc..

I assume more if I'm stuck in a hotel.

Bennifits question:

How much would it cost to pay for my own benifits? Can anyone ballpark it?

Thanks for all the replies.

 

[Way2Broke]

Sounds like the job I have been looking for. 400 series cessna, part 91. If you turn it down, I would love to hear more about the position. Good luck and I hope you get what your looking for.

 

[paulsalem]

Anyone of NBAA numbers for a Conquest?

 

[IHateMgmt]

Anyone of NBAA numbers for a Conquest?

I have 2006 Pro Pilot Mag numbers...

Conquest II Captain
Average Low High
51000 39000 65000

Conquest II Chief Pilot
Average Low High
53000 43000 68000

Conquest II Aviation Dept Mgr
Average Low High
54000 45000 70000

Hope that helps.

-IHM

 

[paulsalem]

I have 2006 Pro Pilot Mag numbers...

Conquest II Captain
Average Low High
51000 39000 65000

Conquest II Chief Pilot
Average Low High
53000 43000 68000

Conquest II Aviation Dept Mgr
Average Low High
54000 45000 70000

Hope that helps.

-IHM

What cat would I fall under: single pilot, and single airplane operation.

 

[Menya]

If you are happy with the aircraft and pay, go for it. Forget about the part that says: "they are planning to move on to the next level of aircraft after 3 years"
If you are there after three years when they "move on to the next level of aircraft" then you dont need to know about it now. Consider it as one of the instructions the judge gives to the jury to ignore certain evidence.

 

[paulsalem]

If you are happy with the aircraft and pay, go for it. Forget about the part that says: "they are planning to move on to the next level of aircraft after 3 years"
If you are there after three years when they "move on to the next level of aircraft" then you dont need to know about it now. Consider it as one of the instructions the judge gives to the jury to ignore certain evidence.

Meyna,

You make a good point.

The reason that I was asking for the conquest figures b/c Pro Pilot and NBAA don't publish data for piston twins. In the negotiations I want to be able to have a reason for the amount of money I ask for. If Midrange Conquest Capt is $51,000 then I think its reasonable to ask for $40,000-45,000

 

[IHateMgmt]

What cat would I fall under: single pilot, and single airplane operation.

Being single pilot, you'd be doing some of the duties of all of them. The DO/Dept Mgr spot really doesn't apply until you get more than one pilot. You would also have more responsibilities than just a plain old Captain. IMHO, the CP slot would be a fair placement.

 

[paulsalem]

Cool.

Thanks IHateMgmt and everyone else. Interview was Monday but he had a trip pop up. So hopefully it will be later this week.

 

[IHateMgmt]

Meyna,

You make a good point.

The reason that I was asking for the conquest figures b/c Pro Pilot and NBAA don't publish data for piston twins. In the negotiations I want to be able to have a reason for the amount of money I ask for. If Midrange Conquest Capt is $51,000 then I think its reasonable to ask for $40,000-45,000

I was in a similar situation not too long ago and came to the determination that when there isn't a real defined salary range for the a/c, you should ask what you are worth as a pilot. Assuming your credentials are accurate on FI, I would stick to $45 w/ beni's. Maybe let them bend you down to $43, but be careful... if they are nickel and diming before this thing even starts, its gonna get ten times worse once they get they're first few bills. You may want to save yourself the trouble and look at other options if this happens. Sell them on your safety and performance records and you should have no problem getting the $45k.

 

[IHateMgmt]

Cool.

Thanks IHateMgmt and everyone else. Interview was Monday but he had a trip pop up. So hopefully it will be later this week.

Not a problem... break a leg.