Cathay Pacific

[Sinca3]

Anyone got pay rates for Cathay? I've checked their web site with no luck.

Thanks
Sinca

 

[ETOPS-787]

CX Info/Salary










INTRODUCTORY BRIEF FOR

CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS FREIGHTER FLEET

FIRST OFFICER APPOINTMENTS





INTRODUCTION

This introductory brief is to provide general information about Cathay Pacific Airways, Freighter Fleet First Officer appointments, Conditions of Service and Company Benefits. Full details of Conditions of Service and Company Benefits are provided prior to appointment. Please note that this brief does not constitute a contract and is not intended to be comprehensive or exhaustive. Every effort is made to ensure its accuracy but pending amendments may not have been included.





CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS LIMITED

Cathay Pacific Airways Limited is a Hong Kong based international airline which is committed to the future of aviation, and which enjoys the highest reputation for quality and technical standards in all areas of operation. Founded in 1946, Cathay Pacific now serves over 50 destinations on five continents. The Company’s fleet of over 80 wide-bodied jets, carries more than ten million passengers and an increasing amount of freight each year. Cathay Pacific Airways Limited is a member of the Swire Group and is a public company listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange. Additional information on Cathay Pacific can be found on the internet at http://www.cathaypacific.com.





FREIGHTER CREW

All Freighter crew are based outside Hong Kong and are employed by either Veta Limited, USA Basing Limited or Overseas Aircrew Basing Limited wholly owned subsidiaries of Cathay Pacific Airways, incorporated in Hong Kong. Veta, USAB and OABL provide freighter crew for Cathay Pacific Airways Limited only. Presently, Cathay Pacific Freighters operate five B747-400 and seven B747-200 aircraft.





FREIGHTER CREW BASE PORTS

Europe : London, Manchester, Frankfurt, Paris

USA : Anchorage, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York

Canada : Vancouver

Australia : Sydney, Melbourne





FREIGHTER CREW CAREER PATTERN

Normally freighter crew will operate Freighter Aircraft for at least three (3) years from the date of the successful Aircraft Line Check or forty two (42) months from Date of Joining, whichever is the shorter. At the end of this period, crew may continue to operate Freighter Aircraft or they may bid to operate Cathay Pacific Passenger Aircraft. Eligible Officers requesting a transfer from the Freighter to Passenger Fleets will be considered in seniority order and may require relocation to Hong Kong.



The Company recruits pilots for a full career including promotion to Command. On Date of Joining (DOJ), Freighter and Passenger Fleet crew are given a seniority number at the bottom of the common Aircrew Seniority List. When it is necessary to upgrade a First Officer to Captain, assessment will be made in seniority order by a Selection Panel.

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CONDITIONS OF SERVICE

An offer of employment is made by a formal letter which is accompanied by a copy of the “Conditions of Service” (COS). Signing of this letter by the Company and by the employee constitutes a contract and the provisions of the COS become binding on both parties. All other benefits offered by the Company are not contractual and are subject to change at the Company’s discretion. For all Officers, the normal Retirement Age is 55 years.



SALARY

Officers are paid a salary which is normally increased annually in accordance with a published scale. This salary is common to crew flying all “types” of aircraft on a fleet (Common Jet salary). Crew are paid in the currency applicable to their base area. Effective 1st January 2003:

Captain First Officer

Europe GBP 75,300 – 90,000 GBP 41,748 – 53,424

Australia AUD 161,532 – 205,104 AUD 91,992 – 117,696

Canada CAD 163,320 – 195,180 CAD 78,408 – 137,256

USA USD 113,472 – 152,736 USD 61,308 – 103,428



Crew receive up to 10 annual increments in rank, the first being awarded on completion of twelve months service from DOJ.



LEAVE

First Officers are entitled to 42 days annual leave. Sick leave, maternity leave and compassionate leave are also available.



BENEFITS

PROVIDENT FUND

Officers will receive a Provident Fund Scheme contribution of 15.5% of salary (less any mandatory payments paid by the Company in respect of that Officer) paid with salary or by such other arrangements as the Officer may request, subject to mutual agreement.



Loss of Licence Insurance

The Company will insure the Officer’s flying licence to a maximum of twenty four (24) months’ salary except that, from the Officer’s fifty third (53rd) birthday, any benefit payable for loss of licence under such insurance will decrease by one month’s salary per month so that the benefit payable thereunder will be reduced to nil at age fifty five (55).



Concessional Travel

After the applicable qualifying period, concessional travel on Cathay Pacific and most other major airlines is available to crew, their spouse and eligible dependant children. Single employees may nominate a sibling or a friend to enjoy travel benefits. Parents will also be eligible for concessional travel on Cathay Pacific flights. In addition, employees are entitled to a bookable free of charge (FOC) return ticket on a Cathay Pacific flight each year.



Life Insurance

The Company provides life insurance to the value of 60 months’ salary.



Medical cover

The Company provides medical insurance cover to the employee, their spouse and eligible children in accordance with company policy.



The best of luck with your application!







Claire Delaney

Flight Crew Recruitment Manager

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[Boz]

ETOPS 7E7,

Just curious if those salaries you posted reflect the 1st year pay or are they the max pay on the freighter side of the operations?

Do you also have any salary info for the passenger ops. It seems like you have the choice to stay on the frieghter side if you wish and wondering what the advantage is off making the jump to passenger ops?

Also, where do you normally fly the freighters to? and what is your quality of life like?

Thanks for the info.

 

[Cpt. Underpants]

xxxxx

 

[ETOPS-787]

Underpants back me up

That's ALL what i have.

Capt's pay: between USD 113,472 – 152,736
F/O pay : between 61,308 – 103,428
The salaries are lower in the pax side, and you'll be flying as a relief pilot/SO for a while and HK is your base.



As of the cargo routes:

JFK-ANCHORAGE-HK
ORD-ANC-HK
LAX-ANC-HK
LAX-SAN-ANC-HK
SAN-VANCOUVER-ANC-HK

 

[Cpt. Underpants]

ETOPS and Boz

ETOPS, where did you possibly get the info that "salaries are lower on the pax side"? B-S. The salaries are at least 40% HIGHER on the pax side. Do you even work for CX?

 

[ETOPS-787]

Underpants

No i don't work for CX, but i heard that starting FO in the cargo side makes more money then starting SO in the pax side. Is that not true?

 

[Boz]

Cpt. Underpants,

I assume you work for Cathay? Can you post the salaries or should I just do the math. Anyway, can you shed some insight on life and work rules at Cathay? Any info is appreciated.

 

[Cpt. Underpants]

ETOPS and Scaggs

Apples and Apples. F/O Freighter earns about the same as S/O Pax (if you take S/O allowances into account).

F/O Freighter earns 40% less than F/O Pax.
Capt Freighter earns 40% less than Capt Pax.

Sorry I can't give you a straight answer on salary. There are presently 17 different conditions of service in CX, and I know mine.

Hong Kong Taxes flat rated at 16%.

Non-Converging B scale for all hirees after Feb 1 1994.

More types on pax fleet (Freighter = B74F, Pax = A330-300, A340-300, A340-600, B777-200, B777-300, B744), many more destinations with pax aircraft and access to cookie chuckers if you like that sort of thing.

I am not a freighter puke, but I see from the rosters that if you are on the freighter, North America based, you will fly to HKG, NRT, ANC, YVR, SFO, LAX, ORD, JFK and YYZ. Europe based F jocks fly to Europe, Middle East and HKG, Oz based to OZ and NZ, and so on. N American F jocks do not fly to OZ or Europe except on type training.

Quality of life? Relative, really. The reason that CX makes money is because there are no free rides here. Your days of swapping to fly nothing or barely maintain recency are over. 85 hours a month, month in, month out (~3 ULH trips a month). Each trip about 5 days, that leaves about half the month off. Hotac is good, allowances (paid in cash, non taxable) are good, company SOP's are good, facilities in HKG and out ports are good, Ops Centre is good, training is good.

The only "downside" is that CX is not as touchy-feely as you are used to, there is a lot HR in CX could learn but in general, if you rationalize your relationship with CX (with ANY employer, in fact) you will be very happy.

 

[DrunkIrishman]

Capt U:

Check your PM