Cargo Gig Advice?

[staledog]

Oh boo hoo.

Aviation sucks and I certainly don't need nor did I ask advice from you, bonehead.

Go be a plumber then. As soon as you make your first million, please come back and tell us all about it.

 

[dash8driver]

I know I'm a little late here but I'd like to talk about this dentist comparison.

A Dentist sleeps at home with his wife...

Was this supposed to be a positive or a negative about being a dentist?

One thing that both dentists and pilots have in common. If you're not careful and wearing protection while you're drilling, you could get AIDS.

That is all... resume your bickering.

 

[crxpilot]

Do yourself and your family a big favor. Get on amazon.com/ebay/. Buy every Dave Ramsey book that you can find. Start with. The total money make over. Read them. Live your life by the principles he talks about in his books. Then you will enjoy any flying job you have, and you will not worry about furlough constantly. This is what I have found anyway.

Dave Ramsey is a tool. Save more, spend less. I just saved you $19.95 times each book.

You're welcome.

 

[staledog]

I know I'm a little late here but I'd like to talk about this dentist comparison.



Was this supposed to be a positive or a negative about being a dentist?

One thing that both dentists and pilots have in common. If you're not careful and wearing protection while you're drilling, you could get AIDS.

That is all... resume your bickering.

Why did the pilot put a condom on his antenna?



So he wouldn't get NAVAIDS

 

[say again]

Why did the pilot put a condom on his antenna?



So he wouldn't get NAVAIDS

Good job!! :laugh: :beer:

 

[Redmeat]

Was this supposed to be a positive or a negative about being a dentist?

Depends on whether you picked one of the good ones or not.

I did.

 

[landlover]

2 cousins are electricians and 1 brother is a plumber, all 3 are hitting the unemployment line now. both cousins have considered becoming a pilot for better job stability.

 

[staledog]

The whole plumber vs. pilot debate is fun and all but let's get back to what the original poster was asking about (how to get into cargo).

I hear pilotyip works for a good outfit, and I think they may still be hiring. One of my friends just got a job there. Try sending him a PM.

 

[Bob Dylan]

2 cousins are electricians and 1 brother is a plumber, all 3 are hitting the unemployment line now. both cousins have considered becoming a pilot for better job stability.

That's funny. My brother in law is a plumber and has never been busier. In fact, he's hired 10 employees this year. The fact is, the baby boomers are aging and staying in their older homes now, rather than buying a new second/retirement home in Florida or someplace. The handyman/plumber/electrician business is booming.

Another factor driving the healthy business in the 'trades' is that for 20 years people have been brainwashed to go to college rather than learning a skill. Very few people have the skills to be a plumber or an electrician.

The opposite is true for aviation. Stagnant, no growth, age 65, and too many boneheads (like the people in this thread) willing to do this job for next to nothing because they think it's fun. Lots of rich daddies paid for their loser kids to go to ERAU or somewhere when these underachievers should have learned a trade.

I think your cousins and brother are probably lazy and don't want to work. Plenty of work out there for guys that want it. Lazy ones can go stand in the unemployment line.

 

[pilotyip]

Another factor driving the healthy business in the 'trades' is that for 20 years people have been brainwashed to go to college rather than learning a skill. Very few people have the skills to be a plumber or an electrician.

BINGO give that man a cigar, the only reason to go to college is to learn something that leads to a job that will pay you a lot. I think many middle class parents feel themselves a failure if their child pursues learning a trade, and would much rather have them get a degree in French History. We are training less engineers than we did in the 60's, even thought college enrollment is up 400%, however have had 1000% increase in communications majors. Students go to college by the 1000’s but graduate with no marketable skills. BTW My brother-in law, owns a Muffler Shop, (non-college graduate) lives in a neighborhood with Doctors, Lawyers. In addition, other professionals because he makes over $200K per year. Sends his kids to private schools, lots of vacations, etc. You fly airplanes because you like to fly airplanes, if you want to make money go to a trade school out of high school and run a muffler shop.

 

[Bob Dylan]

BINGO give that man a cigar, the only reason to go to college is to learn something that leads to a job that will pay you a lot. I think many middle class parents feel themselves a failure if their child pursues learning a trade, and would much rather have them get a degree in French History. We are training less engineers than we did in the 60's, even thought college enrollment is up 400%, however have had 1000% increase in communications majors. Students go to college by the 1000’s but graduate with no marketable skills. BTW My brother-in law, owns a Muffler Shop, (non-college graduate) lives in a neighborhood with Doctors, Lawyers. In addition, other professionals because he makes over $200K per year. Sends his kids to private schools, lots of vacations, etc. You fly airplanes because you like to fly airplanes, if you want to make money go to a trade school out of high school and run a muffler shop.

Finally, someone else around here who gets it. This board is full of bozos who fly airplanes for peanuts because it's "fun". It's a shame what has happened to this industry because many pilots are so lazy.

It would do some of these fools good to read "Shop Class as Soulcraft". It's written by a guy (genius level) who quit a Washington think tank to become a motorcycle mechanic.

The big money in the future will be repairing and renovations while a lot of the flightinfo bozos will be flying for less than middle class wages.

 

[staledog]

BINGO give that man a cigar, the only reason to go to college is to learn something that leads to a job that will pay you a lot. I think many middle class parents feel themselves a failure if their child pursues learning a trade, and would much rather have them get a degree in French History. We are training less engineers than we did in the 60's, even thought college enrollment is up 400%, however have had 1000% increase in communications majors. Students go to college by the 1000’s but graduate with no marketable skills. BTW My brother-in law, owns a Muffler Shop, (non-college graduate) lives in a neighborhood with Doctors, Lawyers. In addition, other professionals because he makes over $200K per year. Sends his kids to private schools, lots of vacations, etc. You fly airplanes because you like to fly airplanes, if you want to make money go to a trade school out of high school and run a muffler shop.

OK I would agree with this..

 

[staledog]

That's funny. My brother in law is a plumber and has never been busier. In fact, he's hired 10 employees this year. The fact is, the baby boomers are aging and staying in their older homes now, rather than buying a new second/retirement home in Florida or someplace. The handyman/plumber/electrician business is booming.

Very few people have the skills to be a plumber or an electrician.

The opposite is true for aviation. Stagnant, no growth, age 65, and too many boneheads (like the people in this thread) willing to do this job for next to nothing because they think it's fun. Lots of rich daddies paid for their loser kids to go to ERAU or somewhere when these underachievers should have learned a trade.

I think your cousins and brother are probably lazy and don't want to work. Plenty of work out there for guys that want it. Lazy ones can go stand in the unemployment line.

But I don't agree with any of this.

Yeah, some plumbers are busy, some are losing their jobs. Just like some pilots are busy and have good jobs, and some are on the street.

Aviation: No growth? I think not.

In a slump? Yes.

Coming out of the slump with the biggest hiring boom ever happening in the next 5 to 10 years? Yes.

Age 65 will contribute to this. It's a good thing for all the pilots trying to make it up the food chain, unless you're an old fart that wants to continue working past that.

By the way, I'm not willing to work for little or nothing. Nobody paid for me to get to where I am now, I came from nothing. My dad was a coal miner and laid off half the time when I was a kid.

Also, if I could make more money doing something else, I would.

It just so happens that I know how to do this, I LIKE doing this, and I can and do make good money at it.


p.s. I think anybody could be a plumber or an electrician. It's not rocket science. Neither is aviation. You could train a monkey to do any of these jobs.

 

[Bob Dylan]

But I don't agree with any of this.

Yeah, some plumbers are busy, some are losing their jobs. Just like some pilots are busy and have good jobs, and some are on the street.

Aviation: No growth? I think not.

In a slump? Yes.

Coming out of the slump with the biggest hiring boom ever happening in the next 5 to 10 years? Yes.

Age 65 will contribute to this. It's a good thing for all the pilots trying to make it up the food chain, unless you're an old fart that wants to continue working past that.

By the way, I'm not willing to work for little or nothing. Nobody paid for me to get to where I am now, I came from nothing. My dad was a coal miner and laid off half the time when I was a kid.

Also, if I could make more money doing something else, I would.

It just so happens that I know how to do this, I LIKE doing this, and I can and do make good money at it.


p.s. I think anybody could be a plumber or an electrician. It's not rocket science. Neither is aviation. You could train a monkey to do any of these jobs.

Apparently you agree with pretty much everything I said except the part about growth in aviation.

For that, I say, keep dreaming. If you think this business (aviation) is going to get better in the future, you truly have your head up your azz. Sorry, but true. This industry is flooded by bozos willing to work for free (unlike you, if what you say is true). I don't think there is anything wrong with liking your job, but unfortunately, most pilots are unwilling to do anything else but fly which drives our wages down.

Also, it takes much more creativity and critical thinking to be a plumber than a pilot. Anybody can be a pilot (as long as you have a rich daddy) whereas not everybody can be a plumber.

 

[landlover]

I think your cousins and brother are probably lazy and don't want to work. Plenty of work out there for guys that want it. Lazy ones can go stand in the unemployment line.

i guess i'll join you in making assumptions. i think your brother is a union busting manager and undercuts by using illegal migrant workers. or he is selling drugs and the plumbing biz is just how he washes his money. all 3 do odd jobs/side work using said trade, but aren't sustaining full time income. have you ever thought maybe the demand for this type of work varies greatly by region. bob dylan you come across about as smart as a bag of hammers.