Can we stop whining.

[Dirty Dingus]

Hey Gut, I guess Our day's of LEANING forward are over, sounds like???? Boy, I can't wait for all those senior NJ guy's to show up (though it may be a while), I need a break.
Did I tell you my NEW ZR1 corvette just arrived, picked it up today. Life is good bro, yea, life is good!!! :beer:

 

[OPECJet]

I figured you could do better than a ZR-1 with all the G-String money you're raking in.

 

[RNObased]

O Yea Reno. I think "Team Bubba" would look good on the back of my leather jacket.

Not to give any of you any ideas, but maybe you can have someone embroider that across the ass of your blue jeans.

 

[RNObased]

After my conversation today with one of my immediate supervisors, I can say unequivocally that my Give-A-$hit meter is now officially pegged on zero.

Stick a fork in me, I'm done. Happy trails y'all.

Bad day huh, Gut??

 

[jppt2000]

Hey Gut, Keep that thought in mind (this Int'l flying stuff is REAL easy ALL the time). And please, ask for all the NEW Captain's with little or NO Int'l experience to fly with you, be the PIC, and take you into that dark hole, ONE LAST TIME, By the way, I really don't think you would let that happen. I can just hear the tape " What's it doing now?????":laugh:
Like ya"ll say "It AIN'T Rocket Surgery" It only takes one time, and your head is down trying to fix something they screwed up, you look up and get a pine tree in your teeth. Get my drift yet???? You of all people should know, there are Weak Captains in every flight department, and being in LINE first has nothing to do with being safe. Let's be real here, yes some are better than other's and the company has a great system to get us thru most of the tough times, BUT if my family and I are on board, I want someone like you at the controls , NOT someone who came over in the last few month's and has seniority number in the teens or lower!!!
Back to the origin of this thread, the company and the union should come to some sort of an agreement to allow the NEW senior guy's to be PIC, say after a certain period of time such as a year. As far as I'm concerned I still couldn't care LESS who is the PIC as long as my pay check keeps coming. I welcome the A guy's to the G's. I have 3 very good friends that work for the dark side:laugh:. It's a new dawn and I'm just happy to be here.

What a drama queen.
You forgot to add a dark and stormy night too.

 

[ksu_aviator]

I think the 84 previous posts have illustrated the answer to the origingal question.

 

[jppt2000]

Bad day huh, Gut??

Or, he's been assured he'll still get the deal promised to him.

 

[jonjuan]

Did I tell you my NEW ZR1 corvette just arrived, picked it up today. Life is good bro, yea, life is good!!! :beer:

A corvette? Hope you didn't get the convertible, otherwise you might have a little trouble with...

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...=9x-mTKL7BcP98AaIq_D8AQ&sqi=2&ved=0CB4Q9QEwBA

 

[rajflyboy]

Don't have time to read all 4 pages, so I will finish up later. But I had to respond to this post.

IBB saved our collective buts. Sure we lost some. But we also gained a bunch. Got an LOA for NJI, not perfect, but not horrible. Secured our medical, last year we would have taken a hit like everyone else.

Vacation, you are completely incorrect. It moved the cut off for everyone forward 3 months to Sept 30. Where before the cutoff June 30th, IBB allowed 3 months of pilots, those hired between July 1 and Sept 30, to get that extra year of vacation one year earlier. You always had to complete 10 years of service by the cut off date. It was an improvement!!!

Yes, we did take a hit on day 1 OT as far as the set show/go. It has cost me maybe $400 since IBB. My raise has FAR outweighed that small loss. Hell that number could have been $4000 in lost OT, and I still made up for it in 6 months on the new payscale.
What other scheduling things did we give up? Seams? Flush bid? All fine with me. The system works great and I am very happy with my scheduling. Bottom 1/3 of the list in my seat.

OH and that little nugget that we would be negotiations during one of the worst economic climate in the last 60 years!
I am so very glad I didn't listen to the very vocal group trying to shoot down the IBB.

Another clueless sole.

Do you realize how many people were hired in October, November of 2001?? Guys that will have to wait an entire year to get their 4th week of vaca.

Company saved easily between 150 to 200 weeks of vacation (next year) by shifting the bid period. Company definately won out on vacation.

You need facts to back up your arguments? How do you come up with 400 bucks in first day OT ??

Hell 1 day of first day OT could add up to that much depending on the duty day.

 

[fly4funcrj]

Guys, why are we fighting each other. Lets just fight the folks hired in 2000/2001. They are the cause of all issues..

 

[jppt2000]

Guys, why are we fighting each other. Lets just fight the folks hired in 2000/2001. They are the cause of all issues..

 

[jppt2000]

Another clueless sole.

Do you realize how many people were hired in October, November of 2001?? Guys that will have to wait an entire year to get their 4th week of vaca.

Company saved easily between 150 to 200 weeks of vacation (next year) by shifting the bid period. Company definately won out on vacation.

You need facts to back up your arguments? How do you come up with 400 bucks in first day OT ??

Hell 1 day of first day OT could add up to that much depending on the duty day.

A clueless part of a shoe?
Maybe, you mean a clueless fish.
The last part of your post is completely wrong, as usual.

 

[Fozzy]

Eat crow

Another clueless sole.

Do you realize how many people were hired in October, November of 2001?? Guys that will have to wait an entire year to get their 4th week of vaca.

Company saved easily between 150 to 200 weeks of vacation (next year) by shifting the bid period. Company definately won out on vacation.

You need facts to back up your arguments? How do you come up with 400 bucks in first day OT ??

Hell 1 day of first day OT could add up to that much depending on the duty day.

2005 CBA

8.2 Vacation Entitlement
Crewmembers shall on June 30 of each calendar year be entitled to the vacation periods listed in the table below. Service years shall accrue for each full year the Crewmember is on the payroll.
Service Years Completed Entitled Vacation
1-4 Years Two (2) calendar weeks.
5-9 Years Three (3) calendar weeks.
10 Years and Thereafter Four (4) calendar weeks


2007 CBA

8.2 Vacation Entitlement
Crewmembers will on September 30 of each calendar year be entitled to the vacation periods listed in the table below. Service years will accrue for each full year of service the crewmember is on the payroll.
Service Years Completed Entitled Vacation
One (1) – four (4) years Two (2) calendar weeks
Five (5) – nine (9) years Three (3) calendar weeks
Ten (10) years and thereafter Four (4) calendar weeks


05 CBA, June was the cut off for getting to they next level, in the 07 CBA Oct is the new cut off.

Would you mind helping this clueless sole understand what you are saying.

As far as day on OT goes. Virtually NO ONE gets day one OT any more. We lost nothing. It cost scheduling to much so it is for the most part gone. I have made FAR MORE in my increased pay over what I would have made on that extra .5 show pushing the day one OT. It just does not happen anymore and the set show/go in the 05 CBA just wouldn't offset the huge increase in the pay.