Call for Release

[SSDD]

I'll give you a city pair: FWA-ORD. About a 25 min flt. You are limited by the landing weight, so basically your max takeoff weight is max landing weight+burnoff, or about 48,400. If an alternate is required, its normally a 48 pax airplane. In the winter time, I get bumped all the time.

 

[glasspilot]

Okay, thanks. I see the problem.

 

[Baronman]

Things the Captain should do to help out jumpseaters.... drop the Alternate and its fuel if one isn't needed, lower the Hold fuel, don't take any Extra fuel, find a closer alternate if one is needed. Now that it is summer, there are more kids on the planes and we are using summer weights.

The first thing I check is whether or not we have an alternate, and is it needed? I try to take 50+1 on every flight.

As someone else pointed out, sometimes the fueler is already at the aircraft by the time you're unloading your Pax. Then add that your paperwork is being printed up in ops right now and by the time you run out there you're too late. Doesn't happen often but it definitely happens. If I think it'll be an issue I try to get to the fueler before they're done.

 

[LarryinTN]

From the Pilot/Controller Glossary:

CALL FOR RELEASE- Wherein the overlying ARTCC requires a terminal facility to initiate verbal coordination to secure ARTCC approval for release of a departure into the en route environment.

 

[IslandDriver]

Climb Via

Here is a question about the new climb via clearances.

Coming out our Ontario CA the other day.

I got the PDC. It red "Cilmb Via Sid except maintain 14 thousand"

Now there is a hold down at 7k. Does the above clearance delete the hold down?

My guess is no. But as usual they canceled the hold down on first contact with departure.

Just wondering.

ID

 

[Flyin2low]

Yes it deletes the Top altitude (7000) in the climb via clearance.

 

[Singlecoil]

Yes it deletes the Top altitude (7000) in the climb via clearance.

Incorrect. There is no top altitude on the Pomona 7 and many other departures, but there is a hold down. In this case you would comply with the 7000 restriction and then climb and maintain 14000.

 

[Flyin2low]

Incorrect. There is no top altitude on the Pomona 7 and many other departures, but there is a hold down. In this case you would comply with the 7000 restriction and then climb and maintain 14000.

If that's the case, why would the Except maintain 14,000 be added into the PDC? According to their universal Climb via clearances, 14,000 would be the top altitude on the Pomona7 SID.

Feel free to read JO 7110.113d on the FAA website to understand how ATC clearances work.

 

[Singlecoil]

If that's the case, why would the Except maintain 14,000 be added into the PDC? According to their universal Climb via clearances, 14,000 would be the top altitude on the Pomona7 SID.

Feel free to read JO 7110.113d on the FAA website to understand how ATC clearances work.

As long as we are handing out reading assignments, read question 7 from this FAA Q and A on the climb via clearance.
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...ia/RNAV1_RNP1_RNAV2/Climb_Descend_Via_FAQ.pdf

Top altitudes are published on the chart, like FL 190 on the Shead 7 at KLAS. The Pomona and many others that don't have a top altitude will always have an "except maintain" caveat. You are still required to comply with restrictions prior to that.

 

[IslandDriver]

Thanks. I read the Regs / company training aids. My assumption was correct as stated above. Maintain the 7k then proceed to the 14k.

Thanks for the info.

 

[B6Driver]

Sorry to pick on you, but this is a problem I see with pilots today...a part 121 captain who's never heard of TEC. You've obviously passed all the checkrides, but that quick ride to the top leaves a lot of gaps in the knowledge base.

Don't be so smug.