CAL System Bid

[Ex737Driver]

System bids have a 12 month projection. All 148 plus 7 UAL pilots will be trained in Oct, Nov and Dec.

Curious as to where you are getting this info from.

 

[bizicmo]

Curious as to where you are getting this info from.

from the pilot bulletin, i guess. I interpret it about the same.

Second, this bid has sufficient vacancies to provide positions for all remaining furloughed pilots. It is anticipated that the recall letters for those pilots recalled on System Bid 11-05 as well as this bid will be sent out shortly following the close of this System Bid.

The scheduled dates for this System Bid are shown below. It is anticipated that test award results will be available on the Flight Operations Web Site Wednesday September 8th, and Tuesday, September 14th. A Training Assignment Bid (TAB 10-12) will be posted immediately following this System Bid Award and will include training AND advancement positions for December as well as potential backfill training and advancement positions for
November. You should be prepared to use the TAB process outlined in Section 24, Part 3.E of the CBA for these training and advancement positions.

 

[whatitdoing?]

System bids have a 12 month projection. All 148 plus 7 UAL pilots will be trained in Oct, Nov and Dec.

What? Where does it say that?

 

[Sonny Crockett]

Im at the TOP of the recall list here at UAL....first I have heard of this?





"7" pilots from UAL ? Kinda weird uneven number?

 

[jonjuan]

Im at the TOP of the recall list here at UAL....first I have heard of this?





"7" pilots from UAL ? Kinda weird uneven number?

8....There ya go

 

[rattler]

The bid reflected 155 vancancies. There are 148 CAL pilots on furlough. 155-148 = 7. The PB and MEC news stated letters were being sent out immediately following the close of the bid and classes are expected to begin mid Q4. The TPA states the UAL furloughs will fill the extra positions. Also 15 CAL pilots were "paper" recalled in May and it is unclear if they are reflected in this bid. So potentially 15 more UAL pilots may get letters, unsure. There will also be plenty of pilots who bypass.

 

[eaglesview]

What? Where does it say that?

In the transition agreement that UA ALPA, CO ALPA and both companies have agreed to.

 

[Mike Ditka]

The bid reflected 155 vancancies. There are 148 CAL pilots on furlough. 155-148 = 7. The PB and MEC news stated letters were being sent out immediately following the close of the bid and classes are expected to begin mid Q4. The TPA states the UAL furloughs will fill the extra positions. Also 15 CAL pilots were "paper" recalled in May and it is unclear if they are reflected in this bid. So potentially 15 more UAL pilots may get letters, unsure. There will also be plenty of pilots who bypass.

It appears that those pilots will also be recalled at the close of this bid based on this quote from the system bid:

"Second, this bid has sufficient vacancies to provide positions for all remaining furloughed
pilots. It is anticipated that the recall letters for those pilots recalled on System Bid 11-05 as
well as this bid will be sent out shortly following the close of this System Bid."

I keep seeing people on this thread say the bid had 155 vacancies, but it actually only had 145 (41 IAH 787 CA, 94 IAH 787 FO, 10 EWR 777 FO) vacancies. So, if you do the math:

15 vacancies from last bid
145 vacancies from this one

160 total vacancies

So if they actually fill all the vacancies then

160 - 148 pilots on furlough = 12 left over positions for UAL guys

Based on all that at least 12 UAL guys should be brought on, probably more depending on how many come back.