Cal sna-hnl?

[145BOSS]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Continental-Airlines-prnews-2422503679.html?x=0&.v=1

I wonder what base is going to be flying the SNA route. Right now CLE and GUM are the only bases that are trained for Pacific Ops.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

You can bet the bubbas are going to want the HNL overnights...

 

[bluefin]

That's how UAL will slowly fade away. Now that they have the alliance this flight will be codeshared as a UAL flight also. Next we will hear how low the load factors are on the UAL mainline portion, so it will be discontinued. Now that it is discontinued, we don't need that 767, 757, or 777, so park it and then furlough more!!!!................ It's gonna happen.

 

[Ex737Driver]

The other routes being run around the mill are SAN-HNL, SFO-HNL. Not sure how the second LAX-HNL with a -900ER will work but at least this is a step in the right direction. Look for the LAX/ONT/SNA base to follow close behind this.

 

[EL10]

That's how UAL will slowly fade away. Now that they have the alliance this flight will be codeshared as a UAL flight also. Next we will hear how low the load factors are on the UAL mainline portion, so it will be discontinued. Now that it is discontinued, we don't need that 767, 757, or 777, so park it and then furlough more!!!!................ It's gonna happen.

Ex737DriverThe other routes being run around the mill are SAN-HNL, SFO-HNL. Not sure how the second LAX-HNL with a -900ER will work but at least this is a step in the right direction. Look for the LAX/ONT/SNA base to follow close behind this.



When oh when, will we ever learn?

 

[jonjuan]

Ex737DriverThe other routes being run around the mill are SAN-HNL, SFO-HNL. Not sure how the second LAX-HNL with a -900ER will work but at least this is a step in the right direction. Look for the LAX/ONT/SNA base to follow close behind this.



When oh when, will we ever learn?

No kidding. He thinks this is a good thing.

 

[ATRCA]

Ex737DriverThe other routes being run around the mill are SAN-HNL, SFO-HNL. Not sure how the second LAX-HNL with a -900ER will work but at least this is a step in the right direction. Look for the LAX/ONT/SNA base to follow close behind this.



When oh when, will we ever learn?

You know that CAL and UAL have not merged right? CAL and UAL at this point are nothing more than competing airlines that are part of the same alliance. What CAL does is CAL's business and what UAL chooses to do with it's fleet is it's business. I'm sure if UAL wanted to keep this flying or take it from CAL it will respond accordingly. It suspect UAL has excess widebody capacity that CAL doesn't. UAL also has a far stronger west coast presence allowing it to respond if it chooses.

 

[EL10]

You know that CAL and UAL have not merged right? CAL and UAL at this point are nothing more than competing airlines that are part of the same alliance. What CAL does is CAL's business and what UAL chooses to do with it's fleet is it's business. I'm sure if UAL wanted to keep this flying or take it from CAL it will respond accordingly. It suspect UAL has excess widebody capacity that CAL doesn't. UAL also has a far stronger west coast presence allowing it to respond if it chooses.

"With more destinations in the Pacific than any U.S. carrier, we are pleased to offer our customers additional travel options to Hawaii," said Jim Compton, Continental's executive vice president of marketing. "The flights will provide increased convenience to travelers and will complement routes provided by future Star Alliance partners."

UAL flight #49 LAX to OGG departs at 16:52 arrives at 19:35
CAL new flight LAX to OGG departs at 17:O5 arrives at 19:45

Complement right.......

So you must believe one of two things. That the information and price sharing of the ATI will strictly only be used in the Atlantic and your leadership will "do the right thing". Or you believe that code sharing is just some fancy smoke in the mirrors marketing scheme.

Either way, you take at face value what ever your management tells you. Do you really not have any problems with code sharing to lower paying jobs? Outsourcing to an alliance partner is no different then out sourcing to a feeder airline.

Maybe "UAL has excess widebody capacity" should take some of those extra widebodys and fly IAH and EWR to NRT. It's no bid deal, they just competing with CAL and they will both keep flying these routes........

Good luck to the CAL MEC they may be the only ones wanting to protect all scope.

 

[bluefin]

"With more destinations in the Pacific than any U.S. carrier, we are pleased to offer our customers additional travel options to Hawaii," said Jim Compton, Continental's executive vice president of marketing. "The flights will provide increased convenience to travelers and will complement routes provided by future Star Alliance partners."

UAL flight #49 LAX to OGG departs at 16:52 arrives at 19:35
CAL new flight LAX to OGG departs at 17:O5 arrives at 19:45

Complement right.......

So you must believe one of two things. That the information and price sharing of the ATI will strictly only be used in the Atlantic and your leadership will "do the right thing". Or you believe that code sharing is just some fancy smoke in the mirrors marketing scheme.

Either way, you take at face value what ever your management tells you. Do you really not have any problems with code sharing to lower paying jobs? Outsourcing to an alliance partner is no different then out sourcing to a feeder airline.

Maybe "UAL has excess widebody capacity" should take some of those extra widebodys and fly IAH and EWR to NRT. It's no bid deal, they just competing with CAL and they will both keep flying these routes........

Good luck to the CAL MEC they may be the only ones wanting to protect all scope.

UAL flight 49 will be eliminated from operation, but you will still be able to book that flight through the UAL.com website, just watch. It then will state,"flown by alliance partner XXX". Look in the back of hemisphere magazine. UAL still serves the world, just not in their colors. The blue lines representing UAL are shrinking and shrinking fast.

 

[Ex737Driver]

No kidding. He thinks this is a good thing.

Not sure where you got "good" from but going the other direction is definitely not "good". Would you rather simply not have done the route(s) at all? Would you prefer to wait until mgmt gets a clue and buys WB's to do the route(s)? Would you prefer we give the flying to DAL? I'm curious now as to what would make you see anything other than negativity in all that your all-encompasing vison purviews each day.