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Also CAL from the OC to Maui, as well as an additional LAX-HNL. Anyone else heard this? Already in schedule according to some.
 

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I hear they are going to put the Colgan Q400s on it. The mid air refueling training will be done with a 30 minute video to be watched on a crew member's day off, no extra pay for it of course.
 

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i hear they are going to put the colgan q400s on it. The mid air refueling training will be done with a 30 minute video to be watched on a crew member's day off, no extra pay for it of course.
lmfao!!!!
 

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Also CAL from the OC to Maui, as well as an additional LAX-HNL. Anyone else heard this? Already in schedule according to some.
Apparently the school house boys have confirmed those new routes to guys moving through training.
 

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CAL sucks! I update my apps every month... Can't wait until next hiring wave!
 

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Also CAL from the OC to Maui, as well as an additional LAX-HNL. Anyone else heard this? Already in schedule according to some.
Any idea on what equipment CAL is using out of SNA? Alaska said they couldn't make money on the route with an -800--we'd have to block too many seats. Is CAL planning on using a -700 or 757?
 

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Flew some military charters this past weekend. The Load Planner working those flights said the exact same thing... SNA to a variety of Hawaiian destinations. As for the equipment, I think he said -800s, but don't quote me.
 

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Aloha did it in the mighty -700.

Gup
 

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I read -8's and -7's. I think SNA is a -7.
 

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SNA usually is a -7. We have a few short field performance -8's that we might use as well. It's about the same distance SNA-EWR as it is out to the islands.

In case you're wondering, the short field performance has a two-position tail skid, sealed leading-edge slats, and increased flight spoiler deflection on the ground.

Don't know if ETOPS would require more fuel for the leg, but it looks doable.
 
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You can bet the bubbas are going to want the HNL overnights...
 

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That's how UAL will slowly fade away. Now that they have the alliance this flight will be codeshared as a UAL flight also. Next we will hear how low the load factors are on the UAL mainline portion, so it will be discontinued. Now that it is discontinued, we don't need that 767, 757, or 777, so park it and then furlough more!!!!................ It's gonna happen.
 

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The other routes being run around the mill are SAN-HNL, SFO-HNL. Not sure how the second LAX-HNL with a -900ER will work but at least this is a step in the right direction. Look for the LAX/ONT/SNA base to follow close behind this.
 

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That's how UAL will slowly fade away. Now that they have the alliance this flight will be codeshared as a UAL flight also. Next we will hear how low the load factors are on the UAL mainline portion, so it will be discontinued. Now that it is discontinued, we don't need that 767, 757, or 777, so park it and then furlough more!!!!................ It's gonna happen.
Ex737DriverThe other routes being run around the mill are SAN-HNL, SFO-HNL. Not sure how the second LAX-HNL with a -900ER will work but at least this is a step in the right direction. Look for the LAX/ONT/SNA base to follow close behind this.



When oh when, will we ever learn?
 

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Ex737DriverThe other routes being run around the mill are SAN-HNL, SFO-HNL. Not sure how the second LAX-HNL with a -900ER will work but at least this is a step in the right direction. Look for the LAX/ONT/SNA base to follow close behind this.



When oh when, will we ever learn?
No kidding. He thinks this is a good thing.
 

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Ex737DriverThe other routes being run around the mill are SAN-HNL, SFO-HNL. Not sure how the second LAX-HNL with a -900ER will work but at least this is a step in the right direction. Look for the LAX/ONT/SNA base to follow close behind this.



When oh when, will we ever learn?
You know that CAL and UAL have not merged right? CAL and UAL at this point are nothing more than competing airlines that are part of the same alliance. What CAL does is CAL's business and what UAL chooses to do with it's fleet is it's business. I'm sure if UAL wanted to keep this flying or take it from CAL it will respond accordingly. It suspect UAL has excess widebody capacity that CAL doesn't. UAL also has a far stronger west coast presence allowing it to respond if it chooses.
 

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You know that CAL and UAL have not merged right? CAL and UAL at this point are nothing more than competing airlines that are part of the same alliance. What CAL does is CAL's business and what UAL chooses to do with it's fleet is it's business. I'm sure if UAL wanted to keep this flying or take it from CAL it will respond accordingly. It suspect UAL has excess widebody capacity that CAL doesn't. UAL also has a far stronger west coast presence allowing it to respond if it chooses.
"With more destinations in the Pacific than any U.S. carrier, we are pleased to offer our customers additional travel options to Hawaii," said Jim Compton, Continental's executive vice president of marketing. "The flights will provide increased convenience to travelers and will complement routes provided by future Star Alliance partners."

UAL flight #49 LAX to OGG departs at 16:52 arrives at 19:35
CAL new flight LAX to OGG departs at 17:O5 arrives at 19:45

Complement right.......

So you must believe one of two things. That the information and price sharing of the ATI will strictly only be used in the Atlantic and your leadership will "do the right thing". Or you believe that code sharing is just some fancy smoke in the mirrors marketing scheme.

Either way, you take at face value what ever your management tells you. Do you really not have any problems with code sharing to lower paying jobs? Outsourcing to an alliance partner is no different then out sourcing to a feeder airline.

Maybe "UAL has excess widebody capacity" should take some of those extra widebodys and fly IAH and EWR to NRT. It's no bid deal, they just competing with CAL and they will both keep flying these routes........

Good luck to the CAL MEC they may be the only ones wanting to protect all scope.
 

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"With more destinations in the Pacific than any U.S. carrier, we are pleased to offer our customers additional travel options to Hawaii," said Jim Compton, Continental's executive vice president of marketing. "The flights will provide increased convenience to travelers and will complement routes provided by future Star Alliance partners."

UAL flight #49 LAX to OGG departs at 16:52 arrives at 19:35
CAL new flight LAX to OGG departs at 17:O5 arrives at 19:45

Complement right.......

So you must believe one of two things. That the information and price sharing of the ATI will strictly only be used in the Atlantic and your leadership will "do the right thing". Or you believe that code sharing is just some fancy smoke in the mirrors marketing scheme.

Either way, you take at face value what ever your management tells you. Do you really not have any problems with code sharing to lower paying jobs? Outsourcing to an alliance partner is no different then out sourcing to a feeder airline.

Maybe "UAL has excess widebody capacity" should take some of those extra widebodys and fly IAH and EWR to NRT. It's no bid deal, they just competing with CAL and they will both keep flying these routes........

Good luck to the CAL MEC they may be the only ones wanting to protect all scope.
UAL flight 49 will be eliminated from operation, but you will still be able to book that flight through the UAL.com website, just watch. It then will state,"flown by alliance partner XXX". Look in the back of hemisphere magazine. UAL still serves the world, just not in their colors. The blue lines representing UAL are shrinking and shrinking fast.
 
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No kidding. He thinks this is a good thing.
Not sure where you got "good" from but going the other direction is definitely not "good". Would you rather simply not have done the route(s) at all? Would you prefer to wait until mgmt gets a clue and buys WB's to do the route(s)? Would you prefer we give the flying to DAL? I'm curious now as to what would make you see anything other than negativity in all that your all-encompasing vison purviews each day. :confused:
 
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