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You can quit the "jumping on the sword" speech to me. I've been furloughed also.
It's easy to say you will do whatever it takes on Flightinfo.com. When it comes down to it, I'm not sure we can get enough support to do a strike with any real effect. Maybe some work actions, but I don't know about a strike.
As far as the 500 senior guys. They will take another 500 with them, those who agree with the way they think. The scab mentality is seen in other non-scabs also.
I have been told the avg time is between 6k and 7k with atleast 2k pic 121.
Don't get too down, jws717. The "secret handshake" is an ever changing beast. Perhaps you will be taught it sooner than you think. I know for a fact there are quite a few there (and at other Legacy carriers) who will be doing their first ever 121 left seat flying there. Remember the old saying: "It's better to be lucky than good."thanks, ill go back to my RJ for another few years.
Here is the deal and this isn't just directed to you but every CAL pilot on this forum. Please stop negotiating and or making statements as to what our pilots will or will not do in support of our contractual efforts for a fair and equitable contract.
When you make these type of statements you may not realize it but you are damaging our contract effort. Management does get these posts forwarded to them. The only public statement you should make is my MEC and Negotiating Committee speaks for me and I will do whatever they ask me to up to and including a full strike when legally able to do so.
As far as your statements about job actions etc. This is the straight scoop. Your MEC received a briefing from ALPA's legal expert on legal job actions/strikes under the RLA. Most of the briefing dealt with changes (all negative) since the actions of AA during their illegal sick out and the massive ramifications the entire industry now lives under do to APA's actions. I (your Strike Preparedness Chairman) and other key SPC or now SPSC committee members had an a private meeting with this attorney afterwords.
Without violating my confidentially agreements I will say the following. The only legal job action is a strike at the end of a thirty day cooling off period and subsequence release to "Self Help" by the NMB. Anything else even if it is started by the pilot group without any union involvement is illegal and your union will be penalized severely and subsequently you and your union brothers and sisters too. This has been proven many times since APA's illegal actions (now we are all paying for it) and the courts have upheld these type of interpretations every single time.
Long story short if you or anyone else isn't ready to conduct a real strike when legally able to do so then I suggest you find another career or carrier to work for, because you will continue to work under a POS contract for the rest of your career. How about we stopping making excuses and do our best to bring each and every CAL pilot on board.
One last statement. Lets stop the dissecting our pilot group into subcategories IE: Old CAL, TI, Scab, NY AIR, PEX, Frontier, CALEXP, 87-88, 89-90, New hire etc. We are only 5000 CAL pilots and until we start thinking and acting as such management will continue to kick our a$$'s in negotiations.
All I can say to your post is BS! You haven't seen the Wilson Polling numbers I have. I will not break any of my confidentiality agreements but I can comfortably say our pilot group is very ready for the fight ahead called Contract 08 negotiations.
How about we stop negotiating on a public forum, stop taking shots at our pilot group and ready ourselves for the war ahead called Contract 08. Today One Hundred of your union Brothers and Sisters participated in a very successful CAL Stockholders meeting. Your MEC chairman along with the hundred pilots in attendance did an outstanding job letting our management, board of directors and stockholders that Continental Pilots are ready to fight for our fair share. Larry Kellner even publically stated several times our CAL ALPA phrase of an "On Time Contract" in reference to the Pilot's Contract 08.
Time for every one of our pilots to stop the infighting and prepare mentally and financially for the battles ahead!