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buxflyr

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So 31 yr mainline cap said on the jumpseat the other day it starts tomorrow 9/1.

At first, I asked him what he thought about that, but he made a good point. "Ever since we started with USAIR, its been a downhill ride."

Wonder if there will be some "confusion" on the radio tomorrow!
 
In that lineage they've been Mohawk, Alleghany, Piedmont, PSA, and now Cactus, did I forget any?
 
well it may sound like cat piss but it what pays your bills, so go ahead and pretend your not catpiss , the paycheck says other wise.


ps I love you guys at America West, always treat me well when I ride JS from phx,
also no less of the USAirguys,Always the best treatment from the EASTies
But coming from an EXPAT now. give the fight up against each other and focus on the real point of contention . The ones who pay the check.
That is what it is really about, $$$$$$$$
 
vtwo said:
well it may sound like cat piss but it what pays your bills, so go ahead and pretend your not catpiss , the paycheck says other wise.


ps I love you guys at America West, always treat me well when I ride JS from phx,
also no less of the USAirguys,Always the best treatment from the EASTies
But coming from an EXPAT now. give the fight up against each other and focus on the real point of contention . The ones who pay the check.
That is what it is really about, $$$$$$$$
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The ones who sign the paycheck aren't the ones sueing individual west pilots. Sadly, as shabbily as the company treats all of us, usapa took it a couple steps further. Alot of average line guys on the east are fine people, no doubt, but usapa is just plain vile.

Usapa was formed to beat the west into submission. Telling the average westy to quit fighting is like telling the lady with two black eyes to shut up.
 
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Might be "Cactus" on the radio, but regrettably its USAir and all the bs that name conjures up, painted on the side of the airplane.:(

PHXFLYR:cool:
 
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So...a couple of days ago I'm flying MSP-PHL, and a USAirways guys is looking for the jumpseat to get to work. He's sporting a slick USAPA lanyard. I ask him how USAPA is working out for them...and he gives a long, detailed, high db rant about how much ALPA sucks, and how much better USAPA will be for them.

My F/O (perceptive, bright, and lands better than me!), intervenes before I can respond...and suggests a smarter answer for him would have been "fine, so far".

His reponse: "Why? Are you guys ALPA a$$holes?"

Worry-Free Commuting: Fail

I wonder if he eventually made it to PHL?
 
Occam's Razor said:
So...a couple of days ago I'm flying MSP-PHL, and a USAirways guys is looking for the jumpseat to get to work. He's sporting a slick USAPA lanyard. I ask him how USAPA is working out for them...and he gives a long, detailed, high db rant about how much ALPA sucks, and how much better USAPA will be for them.

My F/O (perceptive, bright, and lands better than me!), intervenes before I can respond...and suggests a smarter answer for him would have been "fine, so far".

His reponse: "Why? Are you guys ALPA a$$holes?"

Worry-Free Commuting: Fail

I wonder if he eventually made it to PHL?
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I usually never let it got that far....I check their ID and send them to the back.

I've had a couple of East and West guys try to get me to see their side of the issue...
i cut it off pretty quick by interupting the coming rant and thanking them for how they treat our guys who J/S.
 
Occam's Razor said:
So...a couple of days ago I'm flying MSP-PHL, and a USAirways guys is looking for the jumpseat to get to work. He's sporting a slick USAPA lanyard. I ask him how USAPA is working out for them...and he gives a long, detailed, high db rant about how much ALPA sucks, and how much better USAPA will be for them.

My F/O (perceptive, bright, and lands better than me!), intervenes before I can respond...and suggests a smarter answer for him would have been "fine, so far".

His reponse: "Why? Are you guys ALPA a$$holes?"

Worry-Free Commuting: Fail

I wonder if he eventually made it to PHL?
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Oooh, not good, not good at all! Didn't you read the court case? USAPA is blaming all the jumpseat denials on some conspiracy between the west pilots and the rest of the commercial airline industry against their poor pilots who are just trying to voice their opinion while begging for a free flight to work. I think they might look into agressive panhandling laws that exist in many cities to give them and their followers (I DIDN'T say lemmings!) guidance on how to behave w/r/t the jumpseat.
 
Colonel Savage said:
So you see yourself as some kind of victim?
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My analogy probably wasn't the best, but we west pilots are defending ourselves against a bigger(more numbers) bully. Actually, 18 line pilots don't have much choice, they were drug into court by the fine catpiss union for horror of all horrors, web board posts.

So exactly how is a west guy supposed to quit fighting amongst other pilots when he is drug into court over chicken********************?
 
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Oooh, not good, not good at all! Didn't you read the court case? USAPA is blaming all the jumpseat denials on some conspiracy between the west pilots and the rest of the commercial airline industry against their poor pilots who are just trying to voice their opinion while begging for a free flight to work. I think they might look into agressive panhandling laws that exist in many cities to give them and their followers (I DIDN'T say lemmings!) guidance on how to behave w/r/t the jumpseat.
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I love the USAPA thought process. They sue their own pilots for denying jumpseats to the East as well as somehow "encouraging" JS denials at other airlines like Alaska who have denied eastholes. The JS is clearly under the "captains authority" umbrella.

Then, when the company wants to give 8 out of 5300 pilots additional education on fuel planning, they take out a hundred-plus thousand dollar add in USA today claiming that their sacred, (wait for it) CAPTAINS AUTHORITY!!! is being trod upon!

It's a one way street for these myopic, doomed losers. They're a cancer that will be killed one way or another. It's just a matter of time. They're too stupid, ham-handed and transparently fratricidal to live long.
 
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2 questions.

Will the USA flights be tagged AWE for ATC or still use USA.

Will the flight carry HP, US, or both.
 
charlie2 said:
No offense but with my speech impediment it sounds like I'm saying "catpiss".
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Don't worry, being handicapped is nothing to be ashamed of. Something to think about for the future...I'm pretty sure your insurance covers speech therapy. Good luck with that.


Your saying "catpiss" on the radio is like an AWA pilot trying to look sloppy in the USAir uniform. It might make you feel better, but in both cases, everyone else just thinks you're a dick with no self respect or self dignity.

Happy Labor Day!
 
charlie2 said:
Lighten up Francis!
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My name is Psycho. Any of you call me Francis....I'll kill you.

And I don't like people touching me, or my stuff. Any of you homo's touch my stuff...I'll kill you.
 
Guppiedriver said:
Boy, you "ex", "furloughed", "junior" Airways guys sure are bitter.:crying:
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My bitterness has decreased with time. Now I just don't give a rats behind what happens to you guys provided it doesn't impact my flight if/when I buy tickets to Disney for the family vacation.
 
get2flyin said:
Don't worry, being handicapped is nothing to be ashamed of. Something to think about for the future...I'm pretty sure your insurance covers speech therapy. Good luck with that.


Your saying "catpiss" on the radio is like an AWA pilot trying to look sloppy in the USAir uniform. It might make you feel better, but in both cases, everyone else just thinks you're a dick with no self respect or self dignity.

Happy Labor Day!
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I didn't know the west guys and gals were wearing the black uniforms yet. Are the F/As wearing blue like they talked about. Black and blue uniforms, isn't that fitting.
 
As expected today out west I hear:

Controller: Cactus 123 climb and maintain FL230.

Pilot: USair climb to FL230

Controller: I said Cactus 123 climb and maintain FL230

Pilot: Oops, uh, yea, sorry......Cactus 123 climb and maintain FL230.
 
A small victory I assume but I'll bet every Cactus dude that hears that on the radio smiles a little inside.

No offense to either side but I feel for both groups. I hope you guys find peace.

Gup
 

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