C-90 pay?

CaravanMan

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There's a chance I might get a job as a C-90 PIC in the midwest this Winter. I would be the chief/only pilot and in charge of all aspects of the plane. I don't have any prior chief pilot experience, so any ideas on what kind of pay to expect? I have no clue about how much flying they will do, or what kind of schedule to expect. I don't know if that's enough information, but if you have any ballpark ideas I would appreciate the thoughts. Thanks. :)
 

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If you are "the man" (only man) you will have your hands full....7 days a week...flying, arranging cleaning, mx, billing etc....

you gotta aim real high for all that work. 100K min IMHO.
 
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100K would be nice wouldn't it? Highly unlikely.......

It depends what kind of lifestyle you have, what kind of advanced notice you get for your trip, ie weeks, days, minutes. Also how many hours they plan on flying per year. Cost of living in your area, and if YOU have to do the cleaning and waxing or you can outsource that.

50-80K, is what you can honestly ask depending on workload. You got a sweet gig if its only 200-300 hours a year and a few days advanced notice on trips. More than that you are working!
 

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what do u think about a CJ ?? if you are the 'man"
 

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A King Air 90 doesn't rate that much salary. Big numbers, but not realistic. You'll probably get offered about 40,000 or a little less. Possibly a little more, but don't expect it.

Flying one and maintaining one my top-out was about forty seven.
 

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100K min IMHO
Wow ... I gotta move to where ever you are next year! :eek:

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(More like $45K around my neck of the woods.)
 

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Thanks for the replies guys. I was kinda figuring something around Avbug's ballpark. It would be awesome if they offered more though! All the details of this job are just now starting to form, but it's sounding more possible as time goes by. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but not expecting anything. Thanks again! :)
 

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Are you a professional that is qualified to do the job or just someone who needs to build turbine time?
I think you are worth what you are worth to the company as a Chief Pilot/Aviation Dept. Mgr. What difference does it make if there mission is best served by a King Air 90, 200, Citation, or Beech Jet? You're still doing the same job and have the same value to the company.
If you had 10 years on the job as a mid size jet captain and the company bought a King Air, because it served their mission best, would you expect a pay cut?

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That lacks any logic or relevance.

If he were ten years as a mid size captain, and moved to another company that flew only a King Air, then he should expect whatever the new company is paying for the King Air.

In this case, the poster is making a move to a position in which he has no experience, to take over a one aircraft flight department, flying an entry level small turboprop, in a single pilot operation.

Should this pilot expect what a ten year captain/chief pilot of a mid-sized jet is getting? Probably not...certainly neither the market nor the industry would bear that out.
 
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FWIW- A few months ago I was helping a pilot on this board with a similar situation. The job was for a BE350. He ended up getting 75K+ bennies. Should a C-90 pilot get 30K less? Both A/C require the same "skill" level and paperwork.

I'm with Gulfstream; aim high!:)
 

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FWIW...I met a C90 captain in the midwest who claimed to make "airline pay" which he defined as a little over 100k. He was guaranteed at least two consecutive days off a week and flew pretty much full-time the other five...single pilot. I don't remember the name of the company but they were involved in mattress manufacturing.
 

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As Chief Pilot of a one man operation you must: Keep the aircraft clean, keep the hangar & restroom clean, flightplan, arrange ground transportation & hotels, track, arrange, and supervise maintenance, plus many other important duties. These duties have value no matter what type aircraft you fly. Flying is only a small part of the job.
What I was trying to say is that the aircraft should match the mission and your pay should not go up or down every time the company trades aircraft.

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I'd think somewhere in the mid-60's to high 70's with bennies for the midwest C90. You're a professional fer crissake, demand to be treated like it. If you low-ball your pay, your employer won't respect you. Sorry Avbug, that pay's way off.
 

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I agree. Even in the SE, average pay for " just a driver" is around 50k with benefits, so a manager should get at least 15k more. I am with Gulfstream also, set the bar HIGH. If you accept a job for below average pay, don't come back here in 3 months and complain about low pay, overworked, bad schedule..... YOU MADE YOUR BED!!!!!
 

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avbug said:
That lacks any logic or relevance.
neither does this...

avbug said:
You'll probably get offered about 40,000 or a little less.
Flying one and maintaining one my top-out was about forty seven.
...theres a VERY respectable C90 operator (in the midwest) that flies ONLY C90s and pays 38K to start as a single pilot operator. if he takes that job for less than 40, he'll be just as silly as you for taking both pilot/A&P duties for less than 50 :rolleyes:

...dont get me wrong, 100K is a bit of an overshoot, but there is a happy medium in there somewhere.
 

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38K to run the whole show and fly the airplane?

Hell, at least some of you know your worth!:puke:

guys, a farkin admin asst. makes at least that these days! you will be that plus the pilot, the mx director, the scheduler, the cleaner, etc...

100K no way huh? what? is that just TOO MUCH for a pilot?

38K -- Many owners would dismiss you right away for thinking so little of yourself...guys probably thinking "shiit, I spend 100K on a car and this slut is willing to do it all for 38K"...humm....

No wonder this business is what it is...38K...pathetic.
 

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^^^ what he said :cool:
 

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Excellent advice guys, I really appreciate it! BTW, Kingairyahoo...is that EagleMed you're talking about? I have a bunch of friends there and have a lot of good things to say about that company. :)
 

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I do the same thing, but in a Cheyenne in the deep south. Pay is $52K a year, plus perdiem, mileage and premium pay for any weeknds. However, I also fly a Citation with a copilot for a different company, make more and work less. Go figure.jet
 

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CaravanMan said:
BTW, Kingairyahoo...is that EagleMed you're talking about? I have a bunch of friends there and have a lot of good things to say about that company. :)
that be the one...if you got friends, and youre at Central (guessing from profile) how come you aint there yet, or are they stagnant???
 
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