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Serious question. Been trying to make a living flying for six years now. Fly for a 135, need to buy tickets home over thanksgiving. If they shut their doors am i screwed? Half of the reason i ask is because the prices over the dates i want, seem to be retarded low. I have flown this route a lot and they have never been the lowest. I'm the guy that likes frontier and would pay for them if they were close in price but nine times out of ten in the past they haven't been. I know I'm the reason all airlines are failing, you know b/c i search for the lowest fair, but use your flaming to keep yourself warm, its almost winter and i already told you i'm "trying" to make a living and a couple hundred would screw me right now.
 

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Serious question. Been trying to make a living flying for six years now. Fly for a 135, need to buy tickets home over thanksgiving. If they shut their doors am i screwed? Half of the reason i ask is because the prices over the dates i want, seem to be retarded low. I have flown this route a lot and they have never been the lowest. I'm the guy that likes frontier and would pay for them if they were close in price but nine times out of ten in the past they haven't been. I know I'm the reason all airlines are failing, you know b/c i search for the lowest fair, but use your flaming to keep yourself warm, its almost winter and i already told you i'm "trying" to make a living and a couple hundred would screw me right now.
If you use a credit card - your ticket is guaranteed. You will get your money back.
If you want reliability for the holiday - I still think Frontier will be fine - but I could say that with all airline tickets.
 

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I was looking up tickets for the weekend prior to T-giving STL-DEN and thought the same thing about the price... $175 (including taxes and fees) round trip. WTF?
 

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I know I'm the reason all airlines are failing, you know b/c i search for the lowest fair, but use your flaming to keep yourself warm, its almost winter and i already told you i'm "trying" to make a living and a couple hundred would screw me right now.
No, you're not the reason airlines are failing....nor is anyone else that wants a low fare. Hell, I want a low price for beer....say $2 for a case of Sierra Nevada. If they'd sell it to me for that and they go out of business, it is their fault, not mine. We know that isn't going to happen. I don't have a degree in aviation business management but, it is obvious airline management lives in a bizarre-o world that is in some kind of a capitalism and free market purgatory. Market forces are not in play in the airlines as in other businesses. It is their fault that fares are unrealistically low, not yours.

We pilots are friggin' cheapskates and there's is not one of us that wouldn't look for the lowest fare if we had to buy a ticket. Anyone that does blame the airline passenger for the woes of the airline industry is a hypocrite.
 
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Almost certain this is flame bait, but to answer your question: Yes, go ahead and buy an F9 ticket. We'll still be here in 2 months and your money is guaranteed by your credit card until you fly.

As a matter of fact, check the price again, as we just announced another fare sale, to my dismay...
 

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Frontier Airlines reported one of the worst operating losses in the commercial airline industry for the second quarter of 2008, and came in second for the highest fuel expenses than any other low-cost carrier, according to Bureau and Transportation Statistics data released Monday.
The Denver-based airline — operating under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection — logged a 12.2 percent operating loss in the second quarter — or $44 million — down from a profit of 0.5 percent in the second quarter in 2007.
Frontier’s loss ranked the airline No. 5 among seven low-cost carriers.
Low-cost rival Southwest Airlines reported a 7.2 percent operating profit — or $205 million — in the second quarter, down from a 12 percent profit during the same time in 2007.
Denver’s largest carrier, United Airlines, reported a 4.2 percent loss — or $223 million — compared to a 10 percent profit in the second quarter of 2007.
To boost profits, most U.S. carriers have implemented fees for checking luggage. In the second quarter, excess baggage fees brought the industry $182.6 million, up from $122 million in the first quarter and $113 million in the second quarter of last year.
The airlines began charging for checked baggage earlier this year in the face of increased fuel costs.
Frontier reported 42 percent of its operating costs went to fuel expenses in the second quarter. Frontier’s code share partner, AirTran Airways, spent 49.1 percent of its operating costs on fuel.
Southwest Airlines, known for its strategic fuel hedging program, reported that 35.5 percent of its operating costs were spent on fuel.
United Airlines spent 33 percent of its operating budget on fuel — the highest of all major carriers. US Airways spent the least at 27.8 percent.
 

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No, you're not the reason airlines are failing....nor is anyone else that wants a low fare. Hell, I want a low price for beer....say $2 for a case of Sierra Nevada. If they'd sell it to me for that and they go out of business, it is their fault, not mine. We know that isn't going to happen. I don't have a degree in aviation business management but, it is obvious airline management lives in a bizarre-o world that is in some kind of a capitalism and free market purgatory. Market forces are not in play in the airlines as in other businesses. It is their fault that fares are unrealistically low, not yours.
Not quite as accurate comparison because if Sierra Nevada doesn't sell much beer in the month of November, they adjust production. That is more difficult in a captial intensive business such as the airlines to "surge" during the busy times and contract during the slow periods. Training and equipment costs do not allow as much flex. Sierra Nevada might go for $2 a case if it were going to explode tomorrow if it didn't sell.
Bottom line when crazy prices are advertised the truth is there is too much capacity in that market chasing too few passengers for a given day.
 

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As long as you use a CC, you're covered. I hope to see them around as well - I love flying F9. Not sure about their pricing though.

I'm mid-point between IAH and HOU. Recently flew to DEN and was originally booked on SW out of HOU for $270 with a stop in SAT. Switched it to F9 out of IAH on a direct flight. Cost......$130.

I don't get it, and apparently they don't either.
 

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We ALL know Sierra Nevada has been gouging the drinking public for years. In protest, from now on, I'm drinking nothing but cheap, $h!tty, tasteless beer until SN drops their price to a reasonable level!

Who's with me?! Come on, let's goooooooo!!!!! (TC charges out of the room in a scene reminiscent of Bluto in Animal House. ;) )

TC :D

P.S.--I think you're safe on F9 till after X-mas but to be sure, shell out the bucks on SWA.
 

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Not quite as accurate comparison because if Sierra Nevada doesn't sell much beer in the month of November, they adjust production. That is more difficult in a captial intensive business such as the airlines to "surge" during the busy times and contract during the slow periods. Training and equipment costs do not allow as much flex. Sierra Nevada might go for $2 a case if it were going to explode tomorrow if it didn't sell.
Bottom line when crazy prices are advertised the truth is there is too much capacity in that market chasing too few passengers for a given day.
Be that as it may, a business is still a business. Nevertheless, the woes of airlines or airline pilots are not the fault of passengers.
 

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previous replys are correct, use a credit card. I always pay with a credit card just in case I need to cancel.
 
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