Bullet holes in cockpit

[Crash Pad]

Crash pad, you guess...again and again and again....and you're way off base once again. Weekend warriors? I'm pretty sure my schedule shows 18 days of work this month...
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Weekend warrior comes from your certification process. I don't want to give away security information... Which badge is the biggest joke. FBI, CIA, Police, NSA, Marine, Navy, FFDO.

Hint: One of these is not a career. It is a guy with a badge and a gun.

 

[uncle_rico]

Hey maybe we should take a poll:

Would you prefer:

A. Someone who will stand up for you

B. Someone who will crawl up into the fetal position

So those are the two options. Carry a gun or crawl into the fetal position.

I have a third. Use common sense. Don't live in fear.

It takes ALOT of work to be as naive/ignorant as you......I take my previous post back.....its fun to play with the retarded......

 

[wmuflyguy]

Hey maybe we should take a poll:

Would you prefer:

A. Someone who will stand up for you

B. Someone who will crawl up into the fetal position

So those are the two options. Carry a gun or crawl into the fetal position.

I have a third. Use common sense. Don't live in fear.

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eh forget it.....your not worth it. You're not very bright.

 

[dash8driver]

I hate to be the one to tell you this. 9/11 can happen again tomorrow. Determined terrorists are good at what they do. If you think they couldn't train for a pilot or air marshal with a gun... You are naive.

ahh yes..its pointless to try to stop them, lets just give up now. nothing we can do will work because terrorists are good at what they do.

I have a third. Use common sense. Don't live in fear.

yea, lets get rid of the x-ray machines and security checkpoints... lets fly with the cockpit door open! dont live in fear! besides, these things wont stop the terrorists anyway. surrender now.

 

[$$$4nothin]

We should all ask ourselves if a loved one were to get hurt or killed and we could have prevented it by carrying a firearm how would we feel. A lot of innocent lives in situations like Sept. 11, VA Tech, and many others could have been prevented with a firearm in the correct persons hands. If none of the good guys have guns, only the bad ones will. S&W. I never leave home without him. Unless I have Mr. H&K

 

[atrdriver]

Did Virginia tech or columbine "change the world"... is any college safe. Maybe we need armed professors and student marshals. Answer: No it was a bad event and some times ***t happens.

Had a few of the teachers at Columbine had a gun it would not have been nearly as bad as it was. But they (the two little punks) knew that they would be the only ones there with firearms, so they weren't worried about getting stopped. You have to be pretty ignorant not to realize that.

 

[Fblowjets]

From an Ex police officer.... I am surprised there have not been more of these "accidents" from the barely trained FFDO's.

 

[strega7]

From an Ex police officer.... I am surprised there have not been more of these "accidents" from the barely trained FFDO's.

Wow! Because we all know the police are
highly trained and never have "accidents"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VNB7Z40w00

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfy8Rf6HIjU

 

[Fblowjets]

Just stating that 2 weeks is barely trained. Good job on You Tube Surfing.. Tool

 

[d328pilot]

I would love to see how much money the guy in the first video got in a settlement.

 

[uncle_rico]

Just stating that 2 weeks is barely trained. Good job on You Tube Surfing.. Tool

So this is the 1st ND of an FFDO......how many LEO's have ND's every year?

Let's see how ND's would skyrocket if the average street cop was forced to put on and then remove the side arm multiple times a day.

Having been an FFDO myself, I thought the training was excellent.

BTW......ND= Negligent Discharge

 

[FishandFly]

I'm surprised that a cop would downplay the amount of training.

Tell us how many days of training you had that were focused on firearms. Also, how many rounds did you fire?

I'm betting that you'll find your training does not far exceed that of an FFDO.

 

[piav8r]

Speaking as someone who recently completed LEO training this past summer, and hopes to finish up the FFDO program sometime soon...

In our skills component of training we had probably 16, 4 hour sessions at the gun range covering shooting of all types, distances, etc. I probably fired close to 5,000 rounds in that training situation and probably and additional 5,000 or better through my own practice and training.

This is just my .02 worth, but the safest place for a loaded weapon is directly on your person. UD's and ND's happen all the time they just are not widely publicized because the national eyes is not on them as it is with aviation and the FFDO program.

Being a licensed LEO, and a pilot I think improvements can, will, and should be made to the FFDO program that allows for a pilot to have their weapon on their person (read in a retention holster on their hip) and in their direct control from the moment they leave to go to work, or at the very least from when they park they vehicle in the parking lot. When I'm at work I carry in what I consider a Level II plus holster. Weapon retention is just that, train on how to protect your weapon. I also have a MN CCW. I am so used to carrying, that I am aware of my surroundings even when I am not carrying. So much to the point that when an Excel Energy security agent decided to frisk me as I entered a sporting event, (he unanouced did this and came from my rear weapon side as I was talking to the ticket taker) when he laid a hand on me I grabbed his hand and spun him into a wrist lock and asked what the he%% he was doing.

What I am trying to point out is that with proper training your response to someone getting near your weapson side is automatic.

As we said in training, when someone goes for your gun, it's a gun day.

Just my .02 worth...