Bring back Regulation

[buxflyr]

You might as well add a 30-40% job reduction system wide as redundancies and unprofitable routes are eliminated.
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Airlines are already doing this. (FUEL) ][/COLOR]


Don't forget to include the economic collapse of small to medium sized cities that lose all or most of their airline service. Businesses close up and move out. Tourism dies up.

[COLOR="red"] Medford, OR is the latest example of airlines pulling out of smaller cities. (Not profitable). [/COLOR]

Next, it should be fun to watch all those people in congress and those "airline managers" arrested for graft and racketeering as they try to "acquire" influence on capitol hill.

Did you just come to America?


And lastly. I'm sure you'll be happy as your airfares increase 20%,
Just went up $20 more today...what is that??...50% increase total since last year?
or so, overnight for an advanced purchase fare as dictated by some unelected official that would determine the "fare market value" of the ticket. Don't forget the boarding "tax" Taxes are out of control as it is.that would be levied to make sure that whatever airlines are left get "support" from the gubmint to ensure service. And, you know that money will disappear in the greater budget for some unknown reason.

Capitalism would work better if left unfettered. Let the weak die and be eaten by the rest. You can blame Pelosi, and Boxer for that as they couldn't stand KSFO getting any less busy. They're the leaders in making sure that UAL stays (stayed) aloft. Feel free to blame the Repubs too. They're just as guilty. I remember seeing Sen. Kay Bailey and the Cong. from Ennis/Waxahatchee (forgot his name), both GOP, publicly lobbying against the repeal of the Wright amendment. Wanna know why? AMR was in their pockets with campaign donations.

Go back to school and learn some economics.

Everything you just tried to use that supported your argument for de-regulation is already happening as apart of the "free-enterprise you speak about. There are some industries where a government control does work better. This is one of them. It would mean better pay, better working conditions and a solid, committed schedule. No more undercutting LCC's.

 

[HalinTexas]

Everything you just tried to use that supported your argument for de-regulation is already happening as apart of the "free-enterprise you speak about. There are some industries where a government control does work better. This is one of them. It would mean better pay, better working conditions and a solid, committed schedule. No more undercutting LCC's.

Who served Medford Ore in 1978? Who misses it? Those in Medford. Would you rather the taxpayers outside of OR pay to keep air service there?

The airline industry is not "free enterprise." That's part of my point. The "failing" have not been allowed to "fail." There is tons of regulation that's gotten in the way. There was an attempt to privatize ATC a few years ago. That was quashed rather succinctly. There are still calls to reform ATC. They're arguably understaffed, and yet they have to wait for Congress to allocate funds for "modernization."

Name one industry where government control works better? Provide a reference to an independent source, please.

It would mean better pay for whom? Those that are left? Who's gonna pay for it? The passengers that pay the higher fares, and the taxpayers that will inevitably be bailing out the "protected" class. Working conditions? How so? Are they going to wild-cat strike like the French? Whick leads me to.....

I'll give a specific example of a very regulated airline environment that failing. Europe. Where's Swiss Air? Looks what's happening to Alitalia. Air France was on the verge of insolvence, and so was KLM. They were "forced" to merge. Varig in Brazil (different continent) had hegemony over S. America. They're almost gone. Had to be partially bailed out by Americans (Mattlin-Patterson).

 

[Spicepilots]

The government has no place in bailing out any private enterprise. Bailing out failing companies just prolongs the pain. I hope no bail outs come this time around.

The government also has no place in bailing out financial institutions who make risky investments and play fast and loose with their clients' money... oops. I guess it just depends on who has friends in the White House.

 

[ROSWELL41]

The government also has no place in bailing out financial institutions who make risky investments and play fast and loose with their clients' money... oops. I guess it just depends on who has friends in the White House.

I agree...

 

[Abernathy]

What Carter left us with is a mess.....

It is simply a failure, by all accounts.... You can't attract investors to put their bucks in an industry that continuously and consistently loses money as much an airlines do. Something will have to happen or the industry will collapse.

-Here is a hint:

-Obama is not the answer-Communism never works!

Do you know what communism is

 

[Soverytired]

Do you know what communism is

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

Every person shall produce to the best of one's ability in accordance with one's talent, and each person shall receive the fruits of this production in accordance with one's need, irrespective of what one has produced.

--(Obama is not a communist. But he is a socialist. And yeah, that was lifted from wiki, which was lifted from god knows where.)

 

[Soverytired]

Specifics: a complete return to the regulated system before Alfred Kahn got involved under the Carter administration. A reinstatement of the CAB, complete with fare and route authority. No new airline entrants.

Fair enough. Although de-regulation was pushed through by Sen. Edward Kennedy, so it can't be all bad.

Anyone else?

 

[go!ng for broke]

reminds me of my favorite bumber sticker---

"Sen. Edward (Ted) Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun"

 

[PCL_128]

(Obama is not a communist. But he is a socialist.

I expect such nonsense from some of the other idiots on this board, but you're smarter than this. Socialism involves government ownership and control of the means of production. Obama has never favored any such thing for any industry. He is not a socialist.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

The government has no place in bailing out any private enterprise. Bailing out failing companies just prolongs the pain. I hope no bail outs come this time around.

Unless they're irresponsible investment banks and mortgage lenders... then just bail bail bail by tanking the dollar with a nearly non-extant interest rate .

It's time we take our medicine.