Briefing an Approach

[91100 100 set]

misc points as well...

a few other things that are worth considering/mentioning on a case by case basis...

1)runway condition, braking action, etc.

2)which way you are going to exit the runway (left, right, will you beexpected to not cross a parallel runway immidiately after clearing,switch to ground control, stay with the tower while holding short, etc?)

3) the condition of said runway turnoffs. Alot of airports spendalot of time and effort keeping the runways relatively clean in thewinter, but the taxiways clearing those runways are an altogetherdifferent story. You don't want a controller to tell you "nodelay off the runway" and then find yourself sliding off into thesnowbank.

Some of these points might fall under the area of "basic airmanship",but some folks spend alot of energy worrying about the actual approachthat they frequently have no plan beyond that, and it's definatelyworth thinking about and including in a thorough approach briefing.

 

[LearLove]

Hey jerky,

Your fingers broke? Why don't you try calling your friends back?

 

[coonass one]

Here goes nothing!

This is the (ILS 36R to CVG), dated (whatever). The ILSfrequencyis(110.35). The final approach course is (004 degrees). Theminimumaltitude at the (xyz outer marker, radar fix,dmefix,whatever)is(2400'), or the glideslope crosses (xyz outermarker,radarfix, dme fix, whatever) at (2400'). The DA or MDA is (1000'msl).TheTDZE is (858'). Missed approach is ( ), (and if holding, statethetype entry). Minimum sector altitudes are (whatever). We willbeinitiating the approach at (xyz iaf). There aremultiplestepdowns(maybe) after (xyz intersection). The missed approachpoint is( ). Thetime on the approach is ( ). The minimum vis is (1/2sm) and wehave (1sm). Any questions?

If you are freight doggin', then leave out any reference to the missed approach, especially the minimums:}

 

[Vik]

I guess no Sunrise Aviation IFR grads here ..

AHARMMMS

Atis, Heading, Altitude, Radios, Markers, Minima, Missed, Slow

 

[CaSyndrm]

Here goes, "THIS PLANE, THAT RUNWAY, ANY QUESTIONS?"

 

[Peanut gallery]

It's the plan man

An approach briefing should contain enough information so that the crew knows what the basic plan is for the whole arrival.
When we are going to start down, ice protection issues, crossings, speeds at certain points. which runway, what type of approach, a quick review of the approach chart like everybody else has already stated. Our plan for the use of auto systems such as speedbrakes, autobrakes, and autopilot. The runway exit plan, start APU?, shut down one engine? Which gate? Hot spots during taxi. There should be no surprises.

 

[legaleagle]

Wrathmmib

Weather, Radios, Approach, Time, Heading, Missed Approach, Marker Beacon, Identify, Brief

 

[fussle]

I was taught ASAP and MMICE ATM.

Atis (weather)
Setup (i.e. navs, radios, etc.)
Approach brief (This is where you use MMICE ATM)
Pre-landing checklist

Magnetic Compass and DG crosscheck.
Marker beacons (test and set)
Idenify (COMM and NAV)
Course (final approach)
Entry (full or vectored)

Altitude (initial and MDA/DH)
Time (from FAF to MAP)
Missed approach procedure

 

[philo beddoe]

Agreed, the miss should be briefed at the end. I require all of my students to give me details on how the hold is entered, for the purpose of keeping them fresh on hold entries. Since so much time is spent in a radar environment for many of us during training, this keeps them in the loop and thinking about holds, since we can't always fly the published miss.

 

[Goose Egg]

I'll throw my $0.02 in. I usually just brief the strip and commit the first few moves in the missed to memory. I really don't like acronyms because I waste too much time trying to remember what the letters stand for when I should actually be flying the airplane.

-Goose

 

[EatSleepFly]

I really don't like acronyms because I waste too muchtime trying to remember what the letters stand for when I shouldactually be flying the airplane.

I agree. These big elaborate acronyms might be good for training, butonce you've briefed approaches a few times, you shouldn't need one. Ihave to chuckle at these acronyms that are practically a sentence.Wouldn't it be easier to just think about it logically and brief themain points of what is going to happen between the time you start downand the time you exit the runway?

 

[bobbysamd]

Marrthan

M = Missed
A = Approach
R = Radios
R = Radials
T = Times
H = Headings
A = Altitudes
N = Notes

 

[saviboy]

Atis
Markers( tested, on and on low sens.)
Identify( plate,airport name, chart number, Navaids)
Course inbound(set on DG and/or navaid)
Entry: radar vectored or full approach( in this case, review hold entry)
Altitude brief( initial app.segment, GS interception, MDA or DA, TDZE, Airport elevation, if full approach: altitude after passing fix)
Time: increase or decrease if tail wind or head wind
Missed approach: brief hold entry and know first couple of steps by heart.

Atis( if already done, obviously dont do it again)
Stack check: verify stack starting from top to bottom( twr, grd frequency,etc..)
Altitude brief ( if already done, review them)
Prelanding check.

Of course, those briefings are done in a teaching envirnoment, hence the redundancies.

 

[Swede]

Initial approach fix; ID, altitudes
Marker crossing altitudes/GS intercept

Go Around procedure (Vectors? FMS?)
Outer Marker ID
Notams (Review)
Navaids (Tune, Identify)
Atis

Configuration (flaps, autobrakes)
Restrictions (legal crew qual?)
Altimeter Setting
Single Engine? (Brief appropriate differences)
Holding after miss

 

[FlyJordan]

Ok guys, I think we have officially discovered that there are 10,000 acronyms for briefing an approach. Way to go!