Briefing an Approach

[FracCapt]

We were taught MARTHA...

Missed Approach Radios Times Headings Altitudes

If you're using NOS charts, that may work fine.....but with Jepp charts, that's way out of order of the briefing strip, which requires you to jump around. It's easier to just go in order of the strip with Jepps.

 

[minitour]

If you're using NOS charts, that may work fine.....butwith Jepp charts, that's way out of order of the briefing strip, whichrequires you to jump around. It's easier to just go in order of thestrip with Jepps.

Very true and excellent point.

Do y'all think there is a need for a standardized briefing or just get something that you do every time that works for you?

-mini

 

[Lead Sled]

Do y'all think there is a need for a standardized briefing or just get something that you do every time that works for you?

Flying a two pilot airplane with an FMS is different than flying single-pilot IFR. Personally, when the weather is down to where I have to get serious about shooting the approach I brief the strip. As far as the missed is concerned, I keep three things in mind - the initial heading, the initial altitude, and the next heading. For example 090 to 1800' then 120. That's enough info to get you going then it's a simple matter to refer back to the plate or have the pilot not flying (PNF) talk you through the balance of the procedure. 99% of the time it's a waste of mental bandwidth to try and commit any more than that to memory - ATC is just going to give you vectors anyway.

If you're flying an airplane with a FMS like the Universal UNS1-C, life is even easier. With those boxes, when you verify the approach, you also check the programmed missed approach procedure to verify that it's in agreement with the plate. Then when you miss all you have to do is hit the Go/Around button, fly the flight director, and configure the airplane to climb. Pretty simple stuff.

'Sled

 

[minitour]

...Then when you miss all you have to do is hit theGo/Around button, fly the flight director, and configure the airplaneto climb. Pretty simple stuff.

'Sled

I knew the school's 172s were missing something...

Thanks for the info on the briefing...

-mini

 

[English]

This airplane, that runway...any questions?

Oh wait, you said training and interviews...

The only other thing I add is verification of current weather versus required weather. For example, I state, "We have 1 mile vis, we need 1/2 mile to do the approach" or something to that effect.

 

[91100 100 set]

misc points as well...

a few other things that are worth considering/mentioning on a case by case basis...

1)runway condition, braking action, etc.

2)which way you are going to exit the runway (left, right, will you beexpected to not cross a parallel runway immidiately after clearing,switch to ground control, stay with the tower while holding short, etc?)

3) the condition of said runway turnoffs. Alot of airports spendalot of time and effort keeping the runways relatively clean in thewinter, but the taxiways clearing those runways are an altogetherdifferent story. You don't want a controller to tell you "nodelay off the runway" and then find yourself sliding off into thesnowbank.

Some of these points might fall under the area of "basic airmanship",but some folks spend alot of energy worrying about the actual approachthat they frequently have no plan beyond that, and it's definatelyworth thinking about and including in a thorough approach briefing.

 

[LearLove]

Hey jerky,

Your fingers broke? Why don't you try calling your friends back?

 

[coonass one]

Here goes nothing!

This is the (ILS 36R to CVG), dated (whatever). The ILSfrequencyis(110.35). The final approach course is (004 degrees). Theminimumaltitude at the (xyz outer marker, radar fix,dmefix,whatever)is(2400'), or the glideslope crosses (xyz outermarker,radarfix, dme fix, whatever) at (2400'). The DA or MDA is (1000'msl).TheTDZE is (858'). Missed approach is ( ), (and if holding, statethetype entry). Minimum sector altitudes are (whatever). We willbeinitiating the approach at (xyz iaf). There aremultiplestepdowns(maybe) after (xyz intersection). The missed approachpoint is( ). Thetime on the approach is ( ). The minimum vis is (1/2sm) and wehave (1sm). Any questions?

If you are freight doggin', then leave out any reference to the missed approach, especially the minimums:}

 

[Vik]

I guess no Sunrise Aviation IFR grads here ..

AHARMMMS

Atis, Heading, Altitude, Radios, Markers, Minima, Missed, Slow

 

[CaSyndrm]

Here goes, "THIS PLANE, THAT RUNWAY, ANY QUESTIONS?"