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Overheard on our way to MDW. Prayers for the RJ FO who was unconscious. Hope they are alright. From over the radios, the captain did a nice job handling a lot single pilot. If anyone has an update, please keep us up.
 
http://www.indystar.com/article/201...-out?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|IndyStar.com|s



A U.S. Air passenger jet leaving Indianapolis turned around and made an emergency landing Monday when a co-pilot lost consciousness.
Flight 3328 to Philadelphia returned to gate B10 at 5:53 p.m., according to an Indianapolis International Airport police report.
First officer Perry Nickleach, 54, of Pennsylvania, lost consciousness sometime after the plane initially left the gate, according to the report.
By the time paramedics met him he was awake and was taken to Methodist Hospital for evaluation.
Police said they did not know when the co-pilot lost consciousness.
 
Oh man, that sux. I knew a female pilot that passed out on a flight and last I heard she STILL hasn't obtained a medical certificate. She was trying for at least two plus years before she finally resigned from the company. Glad he is alive though.
 
Oh man, that sux. I knew a female pilot that passed out on a flight and last I heard she STILL hasn't obtained a medical certificate. She was trying for at least two plus years before she finally resigned from the company. Glad he is alive though.
Yup...his airline career is over, but he's alive. Hope he purchased the Loss Of License Insurance. Enjoy the early retirement.
 
Yup...his airline career is over, but he's alive. Hope he purchased the Loss Of License Insurance. Enjoy the early retirement.

Not so, We had quite a few that lost their medical that went into the training department at the commuter I previously worked for! Let's see, home every night and make more money!

Either way, Glad he is OK and hope he has a speedy diagnosis and recovery.

KBB
 
Hey Could go into dispatch as well.... pending the medical issue..like many of us, the medical issue is the show stopper.. God speed, it sucks, I know.. age 37 for me..
 
Some one has a bad medical problem and you make light of it. May you receive the same treatement if and when it happens to you. Grow up.

Lighten up Francis.

In case you didn't know, that's a quote from the movie Stripes. A comedy about war.

Oh, I'm sorry, should we not make light of war? It's pretty serious stuff. Women and children killed. Not appropriate to joke about, I suppose. Curse you, Bill Murray!
 
Yup...his airline career is over, but he's alive. Hope he purchased the Loss Of License Insurance. Enjoy the early retirement.

Thats the same thing they USED to say about heart attacks, high blood pressure, diabetes, vision issues, etc. The feds are opening up to a lot of things that used to be the career ender.
 
Lighten up Francis.

I know the movie Stripes well. The quote has been used on FI quite a bit.

So then it would be OK for people to make light of your health problems. If you think that is funny well, everybody has different humor. Some more mature than others.

My reply was "Grow UP" Francis.
 
Not so, We had quite a few that lost their medical that went into the training department at the commuter I previously worked for! Let's see, home every night and make more money!

Either way, Glad he is OK and hope he has a speedy diagnosis and recovery.

KBB
Good point. I just had an RLOFT and was talking with the sim instructor about different positions opening up in the training dept. I asked him if he still enjoys instructing or if he misses flying the line. His response: He said he made 110k last year and is home every night.
 
My reply was "Grow UP" Francis.

Methinks you take yourself WAY too seriously. I suspect you've never dealt with situations in which humor takes the edge off otherwise horrific circumstances.
 
a 54 yr old FO?

Probably a second career. Even with one retirement coming in you won't belive how many people will go take another full time job beacause, "The don't want to be bored,".
 
Hey Could go into dispatch as well.... pending the medical issue..like many of us, the medical issue is the show stopper.. God speed, it sucks, I know.. age 37 for me..

I'm sorry to read this. Best wishes.
 
Probably a second career. Even with one retirement coming in you won't belive how many people will go take another full time job beacause, "The don't want to be bored,".

Or Midwest retread. Had one on the j/s that said the most senior guy at Midwest ended up behind a republic guy who was born 19 days before the Midwest guy was hired.

Pretty poor integration there screwed a lot of guys.
 
Methinks you take yourself WAY too seriously. I suspect you've never dealt with situations in which humor takes the edge off otherwise horrific circumstances.

Do you laugh at the newspaper or TV when you see an accident with a person who is covered in blood and near death? I can't comprehend such immature behaivor. What is the difference here? NONE.

Being in a horrific near death situation and laughing is one thing, laughing about some one you read about who could of died is different.

I do not think any of this is funny.

"Methinks" you need to take this more seriously.

I know this is FI, but I think you just have to draw the line sometimes.

IMHO laughing at other peoples misery is sick.
 
Do you laugh at the newspaper or TV when you see an accident with a person who is covered in blood and near death? I can't comprehend such immature behaivor. What is the difference here? NONE.

Being in a horrific near death situation and laughing is one thing, laughing about some one you read about who could of died is different.

I do not think any of this is funny.

"Methinks" you need to take this more seriously.

I know this is FI, but I think you just have to draw the line sometimes.

IMHO laughing at other peoples misery is sick.

You just don't get it. I had drafted whole dissertation about humor but realized it's like trying to explain sex to a 6 year old. Suffice it to say you get it or you don't and I thought the joke was funny and perfectly appropriate. If it was me that the incident had happened to, or a family member, I wouldn't feel any different. But then again I find Gilbert Gottfried hilarious. I suppose you wouldn't.

If you've never seen it, you should look up the show he did at the Hugh Heffner roast just after 9/11. Pure genius.
 
The F/O seized twice during the ordeal. Captain was a SIM CKA and quite senior. Nice job!!

He sounded busy for sure- and a bit anxious like we all would- like holy f*** this is happening- he tried not to say it was a pilot over the air- but ATC pressed him- and of course kept him at 10,000 for too long into Indy-
But yes- nice job- and very very glad the FO regained consciousness. I hope he regains good health soon and as much flying status as he wants.

And as for the age deal- people who haven't done the enormous regional gig since 9/11 and the BK abuse crazy outsourcing don't understand the diversity of experience that can end up in the flight deck of an RJ- from 1000 hour wonders both excellent and crappy, to retired DAL Int'l captains who got bored, to military retirees of all ages- and don't get started on all the furloughees from everywhere...RJ captains see it all and really can't assume anything.
Keep up the
 
You just don't get it. I had drafted whole dissertation about humor but realized it's like trying to explain sex to a 6 year old. Suffice it to say you get it or you don't and I thought the joke was funny and perfectly appropriate. If it was me that the incident had happened to, or a family member, I wouldn't feel any different. But then again I find Gilbert Gottfried hilarious. I suppose you wouldn't.

If you've never seen it, you should look up the show he did at the Hugh Heffner roast just after 9/11. Pure genius.

Now what is funny here is I am trying to explain Humanity, Compassion, and Empathy to a six year old. Humor is as personal as anything gets. But as an adult we are suppose to tolorate a 6 year old's humor, not understand it or agree with it. The OP was about a pilot who may have at most died and at least lost his way to make a living. I do not think that is funny at all.

Gilbert Gottfried? Now that explains everything. I'm glad you enjoy his humor. Not to my taste.

Back to the OP. I hope the FO gets healthy and back to flying soon. I will keep him in my thoughts. That is all I have to say. JAFI out.
 
Or Midwest retread. Had one on the j/s that said the most senior guy at Midwest ended up behind a republic guy who was born 19 days before the Midwest guy was hired.

Pretty poor integration there screwed a lot of guys.


And please tell me an airline that didn't screw a lot of guys with a merger of list..........

Worked out well for the TWA guys!
 
Do you laugh at the newspaper or TV when you see an accident with a person who is covered in blood and near death? I can't comprehend such immature behaivor. What is the difference here? NONE.

Being in a horrific near death situation and laughing is one thing, laughing about some one you read about who could of died is different.

I do not think any of this is funny.

"Methinks" you need to take this more seriously.

I know this is FI, but I think you just have to draw the line sometimes.

IMHO laughing at other peoples misery is sick.
Firefighters and EMT's routinely laugh at such awful scenes that you described. I know because I'm both. It's either laugh or cry, and I'm not gonna cry.
 
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