Before going to Compass,,,,think again

[BoilerUP]

A 70/76/86/90 seater at a "regional" would be the largest, and therefore most senior and highest-paying airframe on that property.

A 70/76/86/90 seater at mainline would be the smallest, and therefore least senior and lowest-paying airframe on that property.

Why people can't keep that in perspective when making the "mainline is undercutting the regionals!" argument is beyond me...

 

[Rook]

Mesa Sucks!:nuts:

 

[Moustache]

Before taking a job offer from Compass, think again.

NWA (NWA/Delta) starts the furlough after they park all the gas-hog DC9's (remember United is parking 100, AA is reducing 10-12%; so this is very real). ALL Delta and NWA pilots will flo-back to Compass putting you on the street IMMEDIATELY (ok, 20/month).

oh, and the top 75 or so guys that took the job as off the street captains? you aren't safe either. The flo-backs will go ahead of you and you will be sitting FO reserve in MEM with a $40k pay cut. Can't afford it? Well, if you quit you won't get unemployment.

No, you don't get to keep your captain pay.

Thought it was a great time to go to Compass 1 year ago, huh? Maybe not.

Must be a Pinnacle FO, the ones who can't upgrade!!!

 

[SpauldingSmails]

The current orders are for 62 76-seat RJs (36 CRJ-900s at XJ and 36 E-175s at Compass).

Ahhhem... uh 36 + 36 = 72.

 

[veneratio]

the compass pay rates suck anyways to fly a E175

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Who pi$$ed in your Cheerios?

Me thinks someone applied and didn't get hired.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Compass is yet another ALPA failure....and another alter-ego carrier that will be involved in the impending food fight....We never learn from our mistakes.....

 

[climbhappy]

we never learn from our mistakes

no, lawyers love generating fees.

 

[spg2bmd]

too bad...

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

NWA planned to buy the Bombardier "C" to replace the -9. Now that it will be DAL/NWA, who knows?

The ERJs are too small to replace the -9.

cliff
MCI
PS-The "C" is powered by the P&W Geared Turbofan, which claims a 20% fuel savings over the current BEST engine operating today. Embraer is disputing that claim, since their planes are nowhere close in efficiency.

 

[Monster Buck]

Their elitism and arrogance prevented it....You will learn about the master race soon enough....

Ya....and don't you forget it! All 12 thousand of them.

 

[Minimaniac]

The 190/195 seats plenty to replace the -9. The 170/175 are "right-sized" to get around scope, much the same way the 135 and 140's came to be (35 and 44 seats). I am curious to see how the C- series performs. The geared turbofan will be impressive if it does as advertised, but personally I think the gearing mechanism will become a maintenance headache. It is essentially a ducted turboprop, and a reduction gearbox is just one more moving part under stress that can fail. That said, I hope it all works out. I am a supporter of innovation and invention, and I look forward to the next big thing in aviation.

 

[Speedtape]

A 70/76/86/90 seater at a "regional" would be the largest, and therefore most senior and highest-paying airframe on that property.

A 70/76/86/90 seater at mainline would be the smallest, and therefore least senior and lowest-paying airframe on that property.

Why people can't keep that in perspective when making the "mainline is undercutting the regionals!" argument is beyond me...

Your statements are facts. However, it is also a fact that your pay scale undermined established rates and fell below their benchmark--no matter who flies them! That made no sense! And to beat Joe Merchant to the punch, Duane Woerth signed off on that concessionary contract--shame on him, as he lives on his triple dipping retirement income.

When your pilot group negotiates rates on your fleet in the future, do you think they will try to build on the highest industry rate, or will they negotiate rates less than the industry standard? The question is not rhetorical!

 

[jetflier]

The 190/195 seats plenty to replace the -9. The 170/175 are "right-sized" to get around scope, much the same way the 135 and 140's came to be (35 and 44 seats). I am curious to see how the C- series performs. The geared turbofan will be impressive if it does as advertised, but personally I think the gearing mechanism will become a maintenance headache. It is essentially a ducted turboprop, and a reduction gearbox is just one more moving part under stress that can fail. That said, I hope it all works out. I am a supporter of innovation and invention, and I look forward to the next big thing in aviation.

I don't think that the larger c Series or 190/195 aircraft if chosen would go to Compass, it would go to mainline due to scope restrictions.

There are pay rates for them in the new DAL/NWA Joint CBA. The rates of pay are much less than the DC9.

 

[MJ42]

I hope this isn't another example of how you scream and yell that someone else's speculation is not supported by current facts but in a couple months it turns out to be true. I hope this for everyones sake.

Since this thread has been revived I thought I'd remind you of your dumb post. The facts are...my info received from FACTS by NWA/DAL MEC's and the new management team are turning out to be true. Your "speculation" supported by "current facts" is turning out to be wrong SPECULATION supported by nothing but stupidly wild guessing.