Beechjet Pilots

[dime line]

I will not debate it any further on this board, but before you do that, make sure you do your home work. It is not isolated to the beechjet as many would have you believe. Find the new Nasa report and read it. I Never worry about flameouts. I do operate the systems properly though.

The salesman will be happy to answer your questions. I also cant help but notice that the Beechjet flew an awful lot of hours without flameouts until one certain operator started having problems. No A.D. has been issued because it does not need one.

Most aircraft contaminated runway numbers stink.

These Flameouts are not just FLOPS planes, two are ours and one was a beechjet out of Florida and another one was in Mexico, I and many of the FLOPS pilots have many thousands of hours with no problems. Just wanted to clear that up. Let the BBJ bashing continue

 

[400A]

These Flameouts are not just FLOPS planes, two are ours and one was a beechjet out of Florida and another one was in Mexico, I and many of the FLOPS pilots have many thousands of hours with no problems. Just wanted to clear that up. Let the BBJ bashing continue

That is correct. The one in South America had no prist. (The pilots admitted it) The one in jax speaks for itself. I have seen the pictures. It had nothing to do with being a Beechjet. You will have to do better that that to convince me.

 

[dime line]

That is correct. The one in South America had no prist. (The pilots admitted it) The one in jax speaks for itself. I have seen the pictures. It had nothing to do with being a Beechjet. You will have to do better that that to convince me.

What pictures? Nothing happened to the plane, tire plugs poped, I flew that plane after the dual engine flame out. All im pointing out is FLOPS had 2, Southern Air had 1 and Mexico had 1. So how many beecjets are flying around? I don't need to convince you of anything, I'm still flying the BJ (so are about 300 pilots at FLOPS) and have complete confidence in the plane.

 

[400A]

What pictures? Nothing happened to the plane, tire plugs poped, I flew that plane after the dual engine flame out. All im pointing out is FLOPS had 2, Southern Air had 1 and Mexico had 1. So how many beecjets are flying around? I don't need to convince you of anything, I'm still flying the BJ (so are about 300 pilots at FLOPS) and have complete confidence in the plane.

The pictures of both engines core locked and full of ice / hail.

 

[400A]

What exactly is an N1 Safe Computer?

Sets the power kind of like a DEEC or FADEC.

 

[Choppy]

The pictures of both engines core locked and full of ice / hail.

Well, I imagine they core locked because they flamed out at 410. I dont think that has anything to do with the beechjet. As far as ic and hail all over it I severly doubt it because the aircraft landed in JAX i believe and I dont care what temp it is he is going to go through an inversion at some point. I call BS on the pics.

 

[Choppy]

The pictures of both engines core locked and full of ice / hail.

Well, I imagine they core locked because they flamed out at 410. I dont think that has anything to do with the beechjet. As far as ice and hail all over it I severely doubt it because the aircraft landed in JAX i believe and I dont care what temp it is he is going to go through an inversion at some point. I call BS on the pics.

 

[400A]

Well, I imagine they core locked because they flamed out at 410. I dont think that has anything to do with the beechjet. As far as ice and hail all over it I severely doubt it because the aircraft landed in JAX i believe and I dont care what temp it is he is going to go through an inversion at some point. I call BS on the pics.

The Ice and hail was not all over it. It was only inside the engines, where it could collect a sufficient amount to survive the low altitude temp. The radar echo's at the time of the incident were conducive to icing of that amount.

 

[Beechjetr]

Sets the power kind of like a DEEC or FADEC.

I don't beleive it sets the power, it's just a computer that computes the N1 setting for a given condition. You still have to set the power yourself.

And where did you see these pics?

 

[HarbourPilot]

Flameouts: Your at FL410 above icing conditions at the top of descent at Mmo. Your given a steep letdown so you pull the power way back, put the engine heats on just prior to being in icing conditions, still powered back at say 60% N1. Don't you think on the way down in the moderate icing conditions the engine heat cannot keep the engine totally clear of ice because of the low power setting (less hot bleed to the engine heat components). So ice has accumulated...now you apply power rapidly to keep the speed up on the level-off. Remember your engine bleed valves are wide open...your basically demanding lots of hot air to the engine heat rapidly and with ice built up around the fan and nearby components your starve the core engine of the needed airflow to keep the fire lit (pop-pop) Does that make any sense? Just a thought...