Beechjet Pilots

[Choppy]

The pictures of both engines core locked and full of ice / hail.

Well, I imagine they core locked because they flamed out at 410. I dont think that has anything to do with the beechjet. As far as ic and hail all over it I severly doubt it because the aircraft landed in JAX i believe and I dont care what temp it is he is going to go through an inversion at some point. I call BS on the pics.

 

[Choppy]

The pictures of both engines core locked and full of ice / hail.

Well, I imagine they core locked because they flamed out at 410. I dont think that has anything to do with the beechjet. As far as ice and hail all over it I severely doubt it because the aircraft landed in JAX i believe and I dont care what temp it is he is going to go through an inversion at some point. I call BS on the pics.

 

[400A]

Well, I imagine they core locked because they flamed out at 410. I dont think that has anything to do with the beechjet. As far as ice and hail all over it I severely doubt it because the aircraft landed in JAX i believe and I dont care what temp it is he is going to go through an inversion at some point. I call BS on the pics.

The Ice and hail was not all over it. It was only inside the engines, where it could collect a sufficient amount to survive the low altitude temp. The radar echo's at the time of the incident were conducive to icing of that amount.

 

[Beechjetr]

Sets the power kind of like a DEEC or FADEC.

I don't beleive it sets the power, it's just a computer that computes the N1 setting for a given condition. You still have to set the power yourself.

And where did you see these pics?

 

[HarbourPilot]

Flameouts: Your at FL410 above icing conditions at the top of descent at Mmo. Your given a steep letdown so you pull the power way back, put the engine heats on just prior to being in icing conditions, still powered back at say 60% N1. Don't you think on the way down in the moderate icing conditions the engine heat cannot keep the engine totally clear of ice because of the low power setting (less hot bleed to the engine heat components). So ice has accumulated...now you apply power rapidly to keep the speed up on the level-off. Remember your engine bleed valves are wide open...your basically demanding lots of hot air to the engine heat rapidly and with ice built up around the fan and nearby components your starve the core engine of the needed airflow to keep the fire lit (pop-pop) Does that make any sense? Just a thought...

 

[400pilot]

The pictures of both engines core locked and full of ice / hail.

Its amazing how the story gets changed over time. The pilot of that aircraft is a friend of mine and I've heard what happened 1st hand more than once. Yes, it was core locked. Full of ice and hail...no.

 

[dime line]

The pictures of both engines core locked and full of ice / hail.

I guarentee that you have not seen picts of that plane, on the ground in JAX with Ice and hail, in and on that planes engine. You might have picts but not with that.

Nov 28 2005 weather was max temp of 73
10am-73 deg
1300-72 deg
1600-70 deg
2000-70 deg

So I highly doubt the picts. Please prove me wrong?

 

[Choppy]

I guarentee that you have not seen picts of that plane, on the ground in JAX with Ice and hail, in and on that planes engine. You might have picts but not with that.

Nov 28 2005 weather was max temp of 73
10am-73 deg
1300-72 deg
1600-70 deg
2000-70 deg

So I highly doubt the picts. Please prove me wrong

That is what i was getting at! Thanks!