Basics on the Lear 45...

[puddlejumper]

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[Viffer]

Hey thanks everyone for the info. For now that's all we are looking for. Happy holiday's.

 

[Capthuff]

Viffer,
The 45 I fly has a BOW of 13870 (on the lighter side for a 45)

MTOW is 21,500
Fuel is 6000
ZFW is 16,000
MLW is 19,200
Bagage, while not as big as the XL/XLS, is large enough for 8 sets of clubs/8 sets of (reasonable) luggage.
loaded like that you can still go 3 hours @.79/450kts
-BR engines = straight to FL450
-AR engines = straight to FL410

The poster above talking about the Excel is wrong. The 45 is cheaper to buy and operate then the Excel. The XL/XLS burns more fuel and goes slower.
LR 45 Cost/NM $3.47
XL Cost/NM $3.95
(from C&dD 2006 evaluator reports)

Some one also pointed out the brakes. The 45 can stop better then the XL/XLS.

However, as was also pointed out, the factory support is not as good as Cessna's.
If you want the larger diameter cabin you need an XL/XLS, if you want 8 real seats, with no one having to sit sideways, you need a 45 or something bigger like a Sovereign/CL300/DA2000 - and spend mucho $$$

Best of success in your search

 

[SDCFI]

Flexjet's 45's are a little heavier: most aircraft have BOWs around 14.2 or 14.3. If you regularly take 6+ adults plus baggage you start bumping up against ZFW (16,000). Not sure how our 45's compare weight-wise to the rest of the fleet, ours probably includes stock and other pax convenience items. Maybe our crews are fatter too

 

[FraxJockey]

There is a new SB that ups the MZFW to 16500.

 

[PropsR4Boats]

Could anyone run some numbers for me. Comparing the XL and the 45 need to know second segment and runway from a 3000' MSL airport at 90 and 110 with 2100 lbs of payload and 3500 lbs of gas. If some one has the XL too that would be great.

Thanks all

 

[LJ45]

Could anyone run some numbers for me. Comparing the XL and the 45 need to know second segment and runway from a 3000' MSL airport at 90 and 110 with 2100 lbs of payload and 3500 lbs of gas. If some one has the XL too that would be great.

Thanks all

I'll run the numbers for the 45XR if you verfiy 2,100 payload? That is 9 passenger x 200 lbs each, plus 300 lbs baggage?

Using BOW 14,200 + 3500 Lbs fuel at take off and 2,100 payload for a takeoff weight of 19,800:

At 90 degrees and 3000 PA:

field length 5005
2nd seg 5.2
V1 113
Vr 117
V2 126

At 110 degrees and 3000 PA:

field length 6673
2nd seg 3.1
V1 116
Vr 117
V2 126

 

[PropsR4Boats]

Just what I needed thanks.

 

[Dinger]

I am glad to see I wasn't in the minority because I enjoyed flying the 45.

 

[mxpilot2]

I enjoyed flying the 45 after the bugs were sorted out, and you weren't getting EICAS messages at the start of every trip. It was a good performer, good interior room and my favorite baggage compartment ever.

Would have been a fine aircraft except for one thing....

They have the WORST pilot seats EVER in the history (or my history) of General Aviation. How ANYONE could sit in one longer than 3 hours without tears in their eyes and an ambulance waiting on arrival is beyond me.