background check question!! HELP

[Furious]

Guidoverduci- First...make sure you answer the question they are asking you. (ie. Have you ever been convicted of...?) If you've never been convicted for it...the answer is no. But, I would definately recommend noting that you were charged, but dismissed. I ran into a similar situation in the Air Force for a TS clearance, and that is exactly what they told me. If the question is open ended (ie Have you ever been charged...?) than answer appropriately.

fieldw- "Character bashes" alone cannot tarnish the application. The investigators will take into consideration that people sometimes talk about things they don't know about. I know someone who's references were asked about any drug use...they said yes (only because said persons friends had a reputation for doing it...so they assumed he did it too) The investigators dug until they got the real information...and he was cleared.

Hope this helps.

 

[jed]

apps, and questions

hey guys,
What about the drug questions?
Have you ever smoked marijuana? Does a "yes" usually disqualify you, even if you were a juvenile.

jed

 

[B52GUNNER]

That I would not admit to. Although Marijuana in itself will not disqual you. Coke on the other hand will. Best bet on that is as Nancy Reagan says "Just say no".
How are they going to find out you smoked a joint? unless you did it a lot, with a lot of people. On the other hand if you were a wake & baker then............

 

[fieldw]

B52, so you are advising to not tell if you have smoked pot? Doesnt that sound risky considering the depth that the investigators go into your background?

 

[B52GUNNER]

It depends on how much you smoked and who you smoked with...
if it was just a few times....and only with a couple of people that will not rat you out then no. However if you were a fiend, and were a well known pothead then I guess that you might want to say yes. It all depends on your level of comfortability.

From what I heard of from my backround check they talked to my neighbors, friends, teachers, and bosses. If you have a good report with them then you are OK. It goes back to your reputation. Dont sweat it. There is nothing you can do about it now. Just hope for the best.

Good Luck. Mine took almost 6 months to go through back in the late 80s. If you get worried about it for that long you will give yourself an ulcer.

 

[Av8rPHX]

ahhh... the lovely SF 86 form

 

[airgator]

Do all pilots require a TS? I know my paperwork for the secret has to be filed by the time I go to OTS, but do heavy drivers need a TS later on?

 

[HoursHore]

You need TS for any recon or tanker platform. I think you need it for spec ops stuff as well. When you get to T-1's everybody fills out the EPSQ (top secret questionairre) . Then depending on your assignment, the SP's and OIS schedules an interview. It ain't that hard to get.

P.S. If you smoked tell them. They will find out. Not only do they interview everyone you put down, but everyone your references refer them to. And if they find something you haven't told them, guess what, they keep digging. You probably haven't gotten this far by being a druggie. ( if you have, congratulations) We all make mistakes in our youth. Military officers fess up, and then learn from them. Admitting pot won't disqualify you. Now psychadelics on the other hand will.

 

[Pistlpetet]

Minor in Possesion of Alcohol??? Big deal! Fess up to that one, it does not involve anything reckless, violent, or pertaining to operating equipment. Your good. Like anyone who asks you about it had never drank a beer in High School.

Say NO to ALL drug questions, unless busted for drugs.

Only list your best friends as references, and then let them know the deal.

All you guys trying to get a pilot slot.....Don't confuse the depth of them finding out stuff with the background investigation of a TS clearance. When you first go into the military the local recruiter checks the court houses of places where you might have listed an incident or infraction. Then they do a GENERAL National Agency Check. They did not have an investigator at your junior prom when you smoked a joint with Sally Jane Rotten Crotch.

Once you are in and need a TS, then they are looking for Security Risk behavior ie.... Are you in severe Debt? Do you have an Alcohol/Drug Problem? Violent Behavior? Loyal to Country?

Busted by Sherif Billy Bob for having a six pack at the Mayberry county fair is not going to harm your future.

 

[B52GUNNER]

Well said. It is all hearsay unless the cops have something on you.

As for the TS and above. I can only speak for the heavy bomber part, but if you have access to any attack plans and Crypto you need TS. The Crypto is classified as TS. If you Fly you are going to have some form of crypto to verify orders in the air. If you have access to special weapons you are going to need SIOP and SBI or SCI plus restricted data clearances. TS is only a begining. Almost forgot the good old PRP program. That is not really a clearance but is an ongoing thing. Gg to the flight surgeon and get DNIF, you might get pulled off PRP depending on the medication. Of course that is only temporary. But it sucks if you have to hand in your line badge to the Sq commander for any length of time.

Good luck. and dont sweat it

 

[Pistlpetet]

b52gunner,
You got me curious about what PRP is. Especially since it says "PRP considered" on my clearance. We don't speak nukes in the Army, so I was never even aware of what that was. After some looking I now know what it is.

Pete

 

[B52GUNNER]

PRP is not a real big deal, but it is. It is basically everyone keeping an eye on each other all the time to make sure there is no big change....Basically your current state of mind. All people that have access to Special weapons (Nuke and other) are on the PRP program. Maint included.

 

[JetDeep]

No way no How! Dont fill out something thats sealed and something you've done 17 years ago. I'm amazed you even rememba it!

 

[hanksate]

What are the consequences to admiting to prior use if you have already said you havent used. How does the TS check work? Will they only talk to people I list and the people that I tell my people to list?

 

[talondriver]

I know a radar navigator who admitted to smoking marijuana on his SCI paperwork and they didn't kick him out. He didn't get his SCI level clearance but still remained on PRP.