BA 777 "lands short" at Heathrow

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I'm watching a live feed from BBC, over here.

Evidently the BA Flt declared an emergency then turned toward the runway.

There is a lot of spectator eyewitness BS being spread right now, and no facts as of yet.

BBC is now interviewing a BA Captain, and he says this just doesn't happen to British pilots. Therefore, it must be a severe damage emergency or windshear or geese ingestion into the engines to cause the airplane to have a problem prior to touchdown. He said at least three times, "This just doesn't happen to British pilots. We are well trained. It had to be an aeroplane or weather problem."

Those BA pilots are still too much. I was working for Lockheed on their L-1011 program when BA bought a bunch of the TriStars. In those days in addition to the sim training, we did 25 hours training in the actual a/c. On my first training flight as part of the instructor crew, we had two BA Captains as our students. I was flying in the FE seat and we had an instructor pilot in the right seat and one of the BA guys in the left seat to start off.

I noticed a nose wheel steering wheel handle on the co-pilot side in addition to the normal one on the left side. I asked the instructor pilot what that was all about. He said BA insisted on Lockheed installing a nose wheel steering handle on the right side and it was cheaper not to remove the left one, so it remains.

Here's what surprised me: the BA student Captain said "Oh, BA Captains don't actually taxi the airplane, that's beneath us, that's what we have co-pilots for"!!

 

[Britpilot]

[John Pennekamp quote;

I would think a 777 under normal conditions would land with at least a few thousand pounds on board. If that much fuel spilled on the grass those tree hugging Brits would be acting like the Exxon Valdez just parked at Heathrow. Yet you see no large containment or cleanup efforts.[/quote]

It had 10 tonnes of fuel on board. The report does not state how much of that fuel leaked but some of it did.
You seem to have an issue with British people, why is that?
The aircraft is subject to an investigation so once that is complete I'm sure they will clean up the sight.
I think you will find that there are many more "tree huggers" here in the US than in all of the UK.
My dad used to say "engage brain before placing mouth into gear"
Good advice for you.

 

[Britpilot]

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Also curious to see if there are any BS lawsuits like in the states here that come out of this.

Not likely. The British have a loser pays system, something we sure could use here in the USA.

 

[John Pennekamp]

It had 10 tonnes of fuel on board. The report does not state how much of that fuel leaked but some of it did.
You seem to have an issue with British people, why is that?
The aircraft is subject to an investigation so once that is complete I'm sure they will clean up the sight.
I think you will find that there are many more "tree huggers" here in the US than in all of the UK.

Oh please. Anybody who's been on this board for a while knows I'm one of the biggest left wing, socialist, tree hugging, wackos around. I just also like to bust people's balls. Even Brits. You do give us lots of material...

Edit: Cheers retracted. Go drink alone... you limeys have no sense of humor!

 

[John Pennekamp]

It had 10 tonnes of fuel on board. The report does not state how much of that fuel leaked but some of it did.
You seem to have an issue with British people, why is that?
The aircraft is subject to an investigation so once that is complete I'm sure they will clean up the sight.
I think you will find that there are many more "tree huggers" here in the US than in all of the UK.
My dad used to say "engage brain before placing mouth into gear"
Good advice for you.

I see you edited your post to make it even nastier.

I was just busting your balls, but if you want to take it personally, go for it. Apparently the stiff upper lip fades when you come over here and associate with us Yanks. I see you have an ex ValuJet plane as your avitar. Work for Citrus? Couldn't get on with BA eh? Sorry to hear that.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I see you edited your post to make it even nastier.

I was just busting your balls, but if you want to take it personally, go for it. Apparently the stiff upper lip fades when you come over here and associate with us Yanks. I see you have an ex ValuJet plane as your avitar. Work for Citrus? Couldn't get on with BA eh? Sorry to hear that.

You're ragging on an AirTran guy about not being able to get hired at another company while you're a lifer at ASA?

Pot, meet Kettle.

 

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It is unusual that the crew has been made available to the press in uniform. That fact alone would appear to indicate that BA's preliminary investigation has not indicated pilot error was a causal factor.

Anyone here up on how the 777's autothrottles work? Does the 777 still have cables to the ECC's?

From the interview I heard, it sounded like the engines did not respond to thrust lever commands.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I have a belly button.

 

[John Pennekamp]

You're ragging on an AirTran guy about not being able to get hired at another company while you're a lifer at ASA?

Pot, meet Kettle.

*yawn*

ASA lifer? Couldn't get hired? How original. Same boring argument that's been rehashed here a thousand times. Which mainline carrier are you working for pinnacle boy? Do you routinely cruise your captain's RJ at .77 too?