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It's not about low wages...
I know you are, but there is this huge misconception that I'm about low wages and that could not be further from the truth.
I want everybody to get paid what they are worth and if I thought for even a second a union would roll back wages in a CBA to match the economy to save jobs I wouldn't be so hard on the union product.
It doesn't work that way though. Unions expect the company to pay "good times" wages during "bad times", and that is where I part company with the union way. I'm not going to even get into limiting scope clauses or work rules that reward pilots for not working. All of these items cost families jobs and threaten the company.
I'm about the company being stable and staying in existence. All of the working employees in the company should be able to remain gainfully employed. It's hard enough running any company, but with a CBA looming as the governing document to how a company is run, the odds are against success and stability.
You mentioned the $30/hr floor sweeper. One of the unknown facts about Lorenzo at Eastern was he offered a huge paid training program to the ramp workers that were making A & P wages under the contract to train as mechanics so they could hire and pay ramp workers appropriate wages. The union refused stating there wasn't a need for them to train because they were already making those wages. A year later they were all unemployed. There are many things that Lorenzo did that will never become public, but he will always be tagged for what happened, not the mechanic's union.
for once I think we agree, unions can do that. Glad we wern't greedy, otherwise I think the contract would sink us. What I hate about unions is the guy sweeping the floor makes $30/hr.....everyone wants to be rich. That's a problem. We shouldnt need a union as pilots that's for sure.
Our salaries don't even rank on the debt chart here. You should see what we spend on software and office supplies.
Calm down though, im just yanking your chain a bit.
I know you are, but there is this huge misconception that I'm about low wages and that could not be further from the truth.
I want everybody to get paid what they are worth and if I thought for even a second a union would roll back wages in a CBA to match the economy to save jobs I wouldn't be so hard on the union product.
It doesn't work that way though. Unions expect the company to pay "good times" wages during "bad times", and that is where I part company with the union way. I'm not going to even get into limiting scope clauses or work rules that reward pilots for not working. All of these items cost families jobs and threaten the company.
I'm about the company being stable and staying in existence. All of the working employees in the company should be able to remain gainfully employed. It's hard enough running any company, but with a CBA looming as the governing document to how a company is run, the odds are against success and stability.
You mentioned the $30/hr floor sweeper. One of the unknown facts about Lorenzo at Eastern was he offered a huge paid training program to the ramp workers that were making A & P wages under the contract to train as mechanics so they could hire and pay ramp workers appropriate wages. The union refused stating there wasn't a need for them to train because they were already making those wages. A year later they were all unemployed. There are many things that Lorenzo did that will never become public, but he will always be tagged for what happened, not the mechanic's union.