B-58 systems manual/training materials?

Snakum

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Anyone have a source for B-58 training material/classes?

Written, CBT, online, or your old stuff you don't need any more? I need a comprehensive B-58 systems class in some form or another at the end of this month, in order to take advantage of a golden opportunity. It's coming out of my own pocket (I know, I know ... "Whore!") so I'm trying to dig up as many alternatives as possible.

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Snakum,

After owning a B58 for 6+ years, the best advice I can give you is read and become very familiar with the POH. A bunch of good info in there.

I'm sure you can get a hold of one somewhere, as barons are fairly common. If not, you can get one from Raytheon.

Have fun, awesome airplane.
 

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I thought you were talking about the B-58 Hustler there for a minute. Now, THAT would be a fun plane!
 

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Me too, guess I'm getting old, because it brought back images of the B-58's going to Moscow with nukes in the movie "Fail Safe".
 

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LOL! Eagle got me on the Hustler when I asked about B-58 checklists earlier this week. :D

Yeah Z, I have access to the Raytheon manual, and I have a copy of the Flight Express B-58 training quizzes, thanks to EagleRJ, which the manual will help me work thru. I was kind of hoping someone might still have the material from a Simuflite or FlightSafety B58 initial lying arouind that they needed to get rid of cheap. :)

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"It's coming out of my own pocket"


My first thought was "he's got some coins if he's buying gas for four J-79s!"
 

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Funny thing is, if you go to the Wright Pat AF museum, the B-58 is not as big as you might think it is.
 

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When I was a kid I built a B-58 Hustler model. I remember it had a HUGE external fuel tank almost the length of the fuselage. Or was that one of the old timey nukes?
 
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Snakum said:
LOL! Eagle got me on the Hustler when I asked about B-58 checklists earlier this week. :D

That's because a Baron is a BE-58.

If you know of anyone at your airport who does a freight run in a Baron, especially from a larger freight company, ask them and they can probably hook you up with some training material, profiles, checklists that they used when they went through training. You won't find many people who are logging as much time in a Baron as your local freight dawg, so they're probably the ones to ask for the ins and outs of flying one.

Good luck, it's a great airplane.
 

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No, it was a fuel tank, and the hustler is an impressive airplane sitting rotting as a static display, big or small. What a beautiful piece of work.
 

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avbug said:
No, it was a fuel tank, and the hustler is an impressive airplane sitting rotting as a static display, big or small. What a beautiful piece of work.
If you want to give your brain a workout, look at the nose gear on a B-58 (Hustler) and then look at the belly fuel tank. Yes, the nose gear retracts aft! I never knew how they got around that until I looked at the B-58 at Wright-Patt up close. Ingenious engineering!
 

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avbug said:
No, it was a fuel tank, and the hustler is an impressive airplane sitting rotting as a static display, big or small. What a beautiful piece of work.
Sometimes its only a fuel tank. Operationally its also the thermo-nuclear device/external fuel tank/electonic counter measures housing. The B-58 doesn't have a bomb bay.
 

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Anybody ever seen the cockpit on the Hustler? I've seen pictures and man!, there is a huge amount of round dials, breakers, etc. That thing must have been quite a handful!
 

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EagleRJ said:
If you want to give your brain a workout, look at the nose gear on a B-58 (Hustler) and then look at the belly fuel tank. Yes, the nose gear retracts aft! I never knew how they got around that until I looked at the B-58 at Wright-Patt up close. Ingenious engineering!
Ditto! I've seen several Hustlers in museums, and each time I stare in awe at the nose gear well and the retraction mechanism... an amazing piece of engineering, done in the days of pencil on paper and slide rules. How dey do dat??

BTW, the ones I've seen are at Wright-Patt, Pima Co. in Tucson, Lone Star in Galveston (a TB-58), and the SAC museum in Omaha. Here's the complete list, http://www.visi.com/~jweeks/b58/
 

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jetexas said:
Anybody ever seen the cockpit on the Hustler? I've seen pictures and man!, there is a huge amount of round dials, breakers, etc. That thing must have been quite a handful!
I've been all three cockpit sections of the TB-58, 556, at the LSFM when I worked there. The largest single instrument is the fuel totalizer in the front cockpit. Its a four engined bomber with no co-pilot, so the pilot is a very busy person.
 

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If I recall, the bottom of the fuel tank is somewhat "carved out", and the nuke mates to the bottom of it, giving the impression of one big external store. But they are two separate stores.
 

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A thorough read through the POH should be good enough.

While it is admirable that you want to go deeper into the systems, the truth is that there isn't much deeper on can go.

For initial Baron training, focus on learning the basic operational aspects of the plane and knowing the limitations solidly.

After that, focus on the flying. Very few people have ever been killed because they did not know some obscure little bit of info about systems. Learn enough to be safe, and the airplane will teach you the rest.
 

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For initial Baron training, focus on learning the basic operational aspects of the plane and knowing the limitations solidly.
Danke schon! I have some stuff coming that should be sufficient then, along with what I already have.

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