pilotfredl
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Crossky said:Nice comments but a little over the top. Are you addressing AWAC or the regionals as a whole? FYI . . .
1. Most AWAC pilots (CA's and Fo's hired with real experience) disagree with ATW hiring low timers and pay to play FNG's. They first started this ploy in 2003 and if you were a Great Lakes CA with over 1000 TPIC you were overqualified and not hired. They'll hire FO's from other airlines but are too cheap to lose their own.
2. We have a little know mechanism (in the regionals) in our United Concessionary contract, a real wage adjustment clause. They took the avg of the six largest independent regionals pay for position and year, and brought us up to that plus 2% (or existing pay if we were above that). In our case the raises this spring were from 2%-4.5%. We still get COL raises also. Our "$21" FO now starts at $24, 2nd yr $35, 8th yr maxes out at $42.
If that story is true, our little FO punk did show bad judgement. At least wear a golf shirt, get her number and save it for later, if you can't hold back your raging hormones.
Crossky said:Nice comments but a little over the top. Are you addressing AWAC or the regionals as a whole? FYI . . .
1. Most AWAC pilots (CA's and Fo's hired with real experience) disagree with ATW hiring low timers and pay to play FNG's. They first started this ploy in 2003 and if you were a Great Lakes CA with over 1000 TPIC you were overqualified and not hired. They'll hire FO's from other airlines but are too cheap to lose their own.
2. We have a little know mechanism (in the regionals) in our United Concessionary contract, a real wage adjustment clause. They took the avg of the six largest independent regionals pay for position and year, and brought us up to that plus 2% (or existing pay if we were above that). In our case the raises this spring were from 2%-4.5%. We still get COL raises also. Our "$21" FO now starts at $24, 2nd yr $35, 8th yr maxes out at $42.
If that story is true, our little FO punk did show bad judgement. At least wear a golf shirt, get her number and save it for later, if you can't hold back your raging hormones.
Lino Duce said:There isn't a lot of people in this industry who have six pack abs like me. He could have been one of us "the master race!"
check6 said:There are a couple of hot little female FOs from AWAC wondering around PHL. I'm a Dash pilot though, so whenever I wonder around the "jet" gates I get stupid and can't talk right.
BankAccount=0$ said:Not that I'm attempting to pass any kind of judgement about this particular situation, but wouldn't a better place to take any sort of issue like this up be the AWAC pro standards committee??
Furthermore, if we as a group (regional airline pilots) spent half as much time getting together to make this a better way to make a living, as opposed to sniping at one another we'd probably be a lot better off...... I don't care if you wear a backpack, listen to an iPod, frost your hair, or hit on some chick across the aisle from you. What I do care about is concessionary contracts, not flying aircraft for what they are worth, and the general downward spiral that our little segment of the industry has taken. Worry about fixing the broken industry, and then look to fix your fellow pilots.
The public could care less about what we look, act, or smell like. They want to get there on time, safely, and for the least amount of money. Of that little bit of money that they are willing to pay, we need to work together as a whole to get the largest portion of it possible. Flying bigger aircraft for the same, or less money is not the way to achieve that.
xjhawk said:I am in full agreement, but want to add some bitches...
1. if ia m paid less than any other professional, less than many non professional careers, less than any of my friends working in teh professional world, why should i care what my crappy old uniforn looks like? i cannot afford to buy new pants, so i can give a crap if they have holes in them. My blazer has no liner.....so i never wear it, even in the winter.
my point is, if they are going to pay me less than 30 grand a year for over three years, i should be able to wear khakis, polo, whatever fing teeshirt i want to wear. oh baseball cap, and a goatee