FN FAL
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Uhhhhh...no. We need a trial, because as a society, we demand it.Big Duke Six said:Nice Clintonian attempt at distorting language, FN. So you are trying to say we need a trial of these two men (who were suited up, had preflighted, programmed and ran checklists in the airplane to get ready to push) to define what the word "Operate" means?
State says something happened. State says the moral fabric of society is damaged by the defendants. State says they are going to hang somebody by the balls. State is required to prove it's case.
It's part of the cost of having a criminal justice system. State said these guys were operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated. Defense says...no we weren't. They go to trial over a definition. It's not Clintonian...every case that goes to court, is over a defining or a definition.
I got a twisted sense of rights and wrongs...no I don't.Big Duke Six said:WRONG!! People showing personal responsibility in no way obviates the need for the Judicial Branch. Law enforcement doesn't always get the right man, and that's what trials are for. I'm all about innocent until proven guilty. But that's a far cry from a guilty person demanding a trial just to see if the gov't can muster a case against them. Unless I've misread you and you are actually an anarchist, then I have a hard time believing you really think our society should encourage people to NOT tell the truth even if they know they are guilty.
I can't believe I'm having to say that. We are falling apart as a society. You've got a twisted sense of right and wrong.
The US Constitution says we got a right to due process, a speedy trial, protection against unreasonable searches, prohibition against self incrimination....yea, there it is.
Lying is one thing, incriminating yourself is another. Calling me an anarchist, just because I don't believe that people should blindly accept the will of an out of control government, is just plain wrong.
Like I said, lets deputize and federalize all the security guards in the country and give them power to adjudicate right there on the spot. Screw this trial crap!