AWA Pilots File Application For Preliminary Injunction

[Turtle21]

How are the CB&L's, created afterward going to be used.

Fast

"Used" you ask. That is indeed an ironic premise. CB&Ls aren't "used", they are applied or complied with, being the express will of the members who voted them and the legal obligation of the elected reps to implement them.

The arbitration happened under the auspices of legal representatives, yet the CB&L was a direct election of each and every pilot.

No matter what the elected reps do they will face a DFR lawsuit. Their only choice is to pick which one is the more forceful legal obligation.

 

[Fast43]

"Used" you ask. That is indeed an ironic premise. CB&Ls aren't "used", they are applied or complied with, being the express will of the members who voted them and the legal obligation of the elected reps to implement them.

The arbitration happened under the auspices of legal representatives, yet the CB&L was a direct election of each and every pilot.

No matter what the elected reps do they will face a DFR lawsuit. Their only choice is to pick which one is the more forceful legal obligation.

You speak of the CB&L's as if they are guaranteed rights or something. Putting something in the CB&L's does not make it so. Seniority lives in the collective bargining agreement, which means it is NEGOTIATED not mandated by some after the fact bradford memo. The union (CBA) negotiates with the company. In this case it has already been done. So if the union choses to do something else then a DFR is likely. However additionally in this case Mr Parker has signed a TA that binds him to accept the Arbitrated results and he has. If through the Courts he is required to honor that agreement then we will have the Nic. usapa will merely watch this event. Remember for seniority ito be negotiated both sides have to be able to do so. Parker already has.

CB&L's are handy, maybe usapa can pass one that says each pilot will be paid 500K a year. Sorry Doug we would like to help but its in our Constitution.

Fast

 

[Turtle21]

You speak of the CB&L's as if they are guaranteed rights or something. Putting something in the CB&L's does not make it so. Seniority lives in the collective bargining agreement, which means it is NEGOTIATED not mandated by some after the fact bradford memo. The union (CBA) negotiates with the company. In this case it has already been done. So if the union choses to do something else then a DFR is likely. However additionally in this case Mr Parker has signed a TA that binds him to accept the Arbitrated results and he has. If through the Courts he is required to honor that agreement then we will have the Nic. usapa will merely watch this event. Remember for seniority ito be negotiated both sides have to be able to do so. Parker already has.

CB&L's are handy, maybe usapa can pass one that says each pilot will be paid 500K a year. Sorry Doug we would like to help but its in our Constitution.

Fast

CB&Ls are not rights, they are constraints on the power of the elected reps. "Do and do not".

No matter what the elected reps do they will face a DFR lawsuit. Their only choice is to pick which one is the more forceful legal obligation.

 

[Fast43]

CB&Ls are not rights, they are constraints on the power of the elected reps. "Do and do not".

No matter what the elected reps do they will face a DFR lawsuit. Their only choice is to pick which one is the more forceful legal obligation.

Turtle,

If Parker is restricted from negotiating a doh list or even on his own accord decides not to since he has already accepted the list.

Who will have a DFR lawsuit ??

Fast

 

[Turtle21]

Turtle,

... restricted from negotiating ...

Now that is funny.

 

[Ocity]

Now that is funny.

Do you actually believe that Parker is willing to negotiate any significant changes to Sec. 22? This issue is being contested via Class Action Lawsuit in Federal Court. Remember? I'd call that being restricted.

The company refuses to make even the most simplistic comment regarding this matter other than to say "we don't comment on pending litigation". So, they won't even comment on it and you're really dumb enough to believe that Bradford and his junta are anywhere close to getting DOH?



As long as there is pending litigation DOH is off the table. No DOH, no way to comply with the CB&Ls, no way for USAPA to actually perform any of their lofty promises made to the pissed off FO club. USAPA has been neutered by this lawsuit simply because it's there...and it will be there, (in one form or another) until the West gets a fair deal, dual ratification, and ligitimate representation.

 

[Fast43]

Now that is funny.

Come on Turtle your smarter than that.

If the Courts tell Parker he must honor what he has signed, which is basically what has been filed in court. Call it what you will, restricted seems accurate but if you if you have a better term. By whatever name you might have, if he cannot negotiate with usapa for anything other than the already accepted Nicolau list, that is what we will have.

Maybe a Plan B might be a good Idea before its too late.

Any Ideas ??? Suing and trying to Fire those you might want to include in your Plan B might not be the best way to go.

Fast