Avantair

[psysicx]

Do you have to live in base or can you commute?

 

[Everett Howe]

I don't think they're hiring copilots now, I hear you start at 25K until done with training than 40K

So the 25K are starting pay for Cpts? Wow. Not.

How are the right seat guys logging their time, the Piaggio is single pilot, no?

So no SIC required. Just for Insurance I guess.

 

[C425Driver]

The CP is not thrilled about hiring airline guys although we do have a few.

Why does he not like hiring airline pilots? Is it the furloughed guys who will leave when they get the recall or is there something about airline guys in general?

C425Driver

 

[slowto250]

One of the Avantair owners and his wife regularly read this board. They are pretty good at finding out who's posting (although in my case it was obvious and no I did not get fired for posting here).

Enough said.

BTW - don't PM me with Avaintair questions now that is obvious I used to work there. I won't answer them for a couple of reasons. Also it's been 9 months since I left and things change.

Jeezuz, don't they have anything better to do with their time ? Oh.... say for instance, figure out a way to pay someone a living wage ?

 

[Nightowl]

The airline guys we have are generally very good but we have had a few cases where career airline guys have had trouble adjusting to the lifestyle of the fractional pilot. Things like doing there own flight planning and things just in general being a lot less structured than the airlines.

 

[Jolimon]

There is a lot of hiring going on at Avantair. They are looking for 2,500 tt with 1,000 multi for Captains and 1,500tt and 500 multi for co-pilots, attitude is also extremely important. Captains are at 40k and co-pilots are at 25k to start. There is profit sharing, bonus, and overtime on top of the salary. Yearly increases in salary are built in. Pilots meeting the requirements may be hired into the left seat. Training is combined with some at Flight Safety and some in the aircraft. The company is growing fast with 12 more Avanti deliveries in 2005, as well as several new jet deliveries. The company has significant financial backing and strong management. Current hiring is approximately 16 per month. The Piaggio is a great aircraft, soon to have the Proline 21 suite. (July) Performance is similiar to a Citation V with a cabin more similiar to the Excel. Book says 2,850 for takeoff, we use 4,000 as a minimum and will go as short as 3,500 on a case by case basis. As far as baggage, there is 45 cubic feet in the cargo area (aft of the cabin) and 22 cubic feet in the closet. Full size, fully enclosed, stand up bathroom as well. Avantair is certified under 91K and 135.

 

[slowto250]

There is a lot of hiring going on at Avantair. They are looking for 2,500 tt with 1,000 multi for Captains and 1,500tt and 500 multi for co-pilots, attitude is also extremely important. Captains are at 40k and co-pilots are at 25k to start. There is profit sharing, bonus, and overtime on top of the salary. Yearly increases in salary are built in. Pilots meeting the requirements may be hired into the left seat. Training is combined with some at Flight Safety and some in the aircraft. The company is growing fast with 12 more Avanti deliveries in 2005, as well as several new jet deliveries. The company has significant financial backing and strong management. Current hiring is approximately 16 per month. The Piaggio is a great aircraft, soon to have the Proline 21 suite. (July) Performance is similiar to a Citation V with a cabin more similiar to the Excel. Book says 2,850 for takeoff, we use 4,000 as a minimum and will go as short as 3,500 on a case by case basis. As far as baggage, there is 45 cubic feet in the cargo area (aft of the cabin) and 22 cubic feet in the closet. Full size, fully enclosed, stand up bathroom as well. Avantair is certified under 91K and 135.

Yeah, similar to the CE-560. Give or take 50 knots. Stand up lav ? Maybe for the vertically challenged.
Nice turboprop, no doubt. But enough with the sales brochure comparisons already. If it could do all the things the manufacturer would have you believe, Cessna would be shutting down the Wichita assembly lines.

 

[Jolimon]

The Avanti also has hot wings.

 

[psysicx]

Is it true that most upgrade in a year?And do you have to live in base?Also can you log sic or is it considered sp?

 

[Jolimon]

Upgrade within a year is certainly possible and occurs on a regular basis. Preference is given to folks living near the three basis, but more and more pilots are airlining to aircraft so that may change. Under 91k two pilots are required for our operation, so the SIC becomes a required crew member. Prior to that SIC's could log PIC, but only when acting as the sole manipulator of the flight controls.

 

[On Your Six]

Upgrade within a year is certainly possible and occurs on a regular basis. Preference is given to folks living near the three basis, but more and more pilots are airlining to aircraft so that may change. Under 91k two pilots are required for our operation, so the SIC becomes a required crew member. Prior to that SIC's could log PIC, but only when acting as the sole manipulator of the flight controls.

Someone mentioned the possibility of eventually adding jets. Any word on type of jet - are we talking big jets or micro jets like the A500 or the Eclipse? What are the three bases again?

 

[T-REX]

Question for the Avanti drivers..

Is there any risk of the gear doors going through the engine? I see the engine inlet is ahead of the main landing gear but is it possible to go through the prop? Has this ever happened?

Not trying to knock the plane, just a question due to it being a pusher.

 

[mike1mc]

I heard a deal for some Premiers is in the works.

 

[Texasskicker]

Thank you for the information

There is a lot of hiring going on at Avantair. They are looking for 2,500 tt with 1,000 multi for Captains and 1,500tt and 500 multi for co-pilots, attitude is also extremely important. Captains are at 40k and co-pilots are at 25k to start. There is profit sharing, bonus, and overtime on top of the salary. Yearly increases in salary are built in. Pilots meeting the requirements may be hired into the left seat. Training is combined with some at Flight Safety and some in the aircraft. The company is growing fast with 12 more Avanti deliveries in 2005, as well as several new jet deliveries. The company has significant financial backing and strong management. Current hiring is approximately 16 per month. The Piaggio is a great aircraft, soon to have the Proline 21 suite. (July) Performance is similiar to a Citation V with a cabin more similiar to the Excel. Book says 2,850 for takeoff, we use 4,000 as a minimum and will go as short as 3,500 on a case by case basis. As far as baggage, there is 45 cubic feet in the cargo area (aft of the cabin) and 22 cubic feet in the closet. Full size, fully enclosed, stand up bathroom as well. Avantair is certified under 91K and 135.

Great info Jolimon.

I want in. Where to send my resume? I have a logbook full of turbine time. Y'all have a base in Texas?

Tx.

 

[On Your Six]

Avanti looks like a sweet ride

Not surprisingly, the cockpit looks a bit tight - how many hours can you go before you need to stretch? Do you have any leg room? How's the EFIS and FMS - are they pretty capable or archaic?

What's max range with say, 2 passengers and related baggage on a medium-temp day? Let's say you were to leave TEB or HPN, could you make it to LAS or DEN (with favorable winds)? If you are East Coast based, are you primarily flying down to Florida/Islands and back during the winter?