ATN ALPA Recalls Move Forward

[malibuVride]

Great...Now we're rudderless AND spineless!!!

 

[4day]

Yes you are...

 

[bravodude]

what exactly does move forward mean

 

[labatt]

what exactly does move forward mean

A small group of pilots a few weeks ago, requested a formal meeting to have the 3 ATL LEC reps who voted against AIP1 recalled. Today that meeting took place and the majority of attendees (>150) voted to continue the process. By voting for the recall, the next and final step is all ATL pilots will have the opportunity (vote) to recall or support those reps.

Any member who attended today had one vote and was able to carry in up to 3 proxies for fellow pilots who could not attend. Never did get a final tally of how the vote went down. I'd guess 75-25. I'll predict the ATL Reps will be recalled.

 

[Ace McCoy]

It was like 208-67 in favor of recall for C & J and a little closer for T.H. but still enough.

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

A little group, right. It's time for the vendetta duo to go!

 

[madjack]

Voting AIP1 down at the MEC level, dumbest move in commercial aviation history....from a union leadership perspective...they should be ridden out of town on a rail...of course a few hundred vocal pilots had their ear too...just plain stupid...of course SWAPA could be just as stupid (the members not the leadership) and vote SL10 down...which would be the BEST case scenario for the AAI pilots going into arby...

 

[scoreboardII]

So, really, what will the result be besides slapping these guys down and costing bucks to vote and train new folks for the short time till 2015 when everyone is SWAPA?

 

[Clyde Frog]

Amateur hour, again.

Sure do wish we had a management lap dog, like SWAPA has GK. Apparently he fights the battles for them.

 

[Cometman]

Amateur hour, again.

Sure do wish we had a management lap dog, like SWAPA has GK. Apparently he fights the battles for them.

Can't you come up with something new to write besides this? Why don't you get your other friends like Lear70, Ty Webb, PCL and Kharma to come online and give you some help.

 

[Sacha]

Can't you come up with something new to write besides this? Why don't you get your other friends like Lear70, Ty Webb, PCL and Kharma to come online and give you some help.

Where are those guys anyway? I guess it's hard to type when you are wearing Body Armour.....

Frog, your avatar picture could not be more appropriate......

 

[runner46]

So, really, what will the result be besides slapping these guys down and costing bucks to vote and train new folks for the short time till 2015 when everyone is SWAPA?

 

[runner46]

So, really, what will the result be besides slapping these guys down and costing bucks to vote and train new folks for the short time till 2015 when everyone is SWAPA?
- Scoreboard,these 3 have shown exceptionally poor judgement and have lied repeatedly to the group,we dont want them being able to meddle in any way during the transition period.

 

[SWA/FO]

I heard ALPA National said "take the first deal, the second deal is going to be worst"

No wonder those dudes need armed protection

 

[hairball1173]

It was kinda sporty at the meeting yesterday. To say the least.

 

[slaquer5]

Amateur hour, again.

Sure do wish we had a management lap dog, like SWAPA has GK. Apparently he fights the battles for them.

How many at AT are as bitter as you ? I sure hope you do not make it over here. I am sure you will do anything you can to try and burn this place down, thanks.

 

[Lear70]

Where are those guys anyway? I guess it's hard to type when you are wearing Body Armor..

I'm on the negotiating committee. Not commenting on here since my opinion could be construed as "official" (even though it's not and never has been).

 

[Fubijaakr]

Amateur hour, again. Sure do wish we had a management lap dog, like SWAPA has GK. Apparently he fights the battles for them.

And there you have it in a nutshell.

 

[PCL_128]

So, really, what will the result be besides slapping these guys down and costing bucks to vote and train new folks for the short time till 2015 when everyone is SWAPA?

That's exactly right. This is a waste of time and money. We're going to drop $10,000 for a vote that very well might fail to recall anybody, and if it is successful, the only thing we've accomplished is create an MEC that is nearly half vacant for a month and half during some very busy times. And then, after new elections, we'll have three brand new reps who have probably never done any union work before, and won't have a clue what they're doing.

But this is AirTran. We don't do union stability. We do infighting. As much as I'm an ALPA supporter, I actually look forward to SWAPA membership. It's not about the union, it's about the pilot group. You guys have a very unified and organized pilot group, and SWAPA is successful as a result. Our pilots will do well to see how a truly unified group can make things work.

I heard ALPA National said "take the first deal, the second deal is going to be worst"

No, ALPA National didn't give any advice one way or the other on the first deal. They merely gave the pros and cons and let the reps decide. That's how ALPA works. It isn't big brother telling you how to handle your local business.

 

[Tweet-a-Lishus]

Clyde, this isn't a fight on the playground. SW management supports their employees. I find it ironic in your post that you think it is a bad thing for our CEO to support us. All I hear from my buddies at other carriers is how they hate their upper management. Oh and I'll remind you ALPA turned down a very generous offer. I hope all of us can put all this crap behind us in the near future and have a prosperous career.