ATN ALPA Backs Out of Process Agreement with SWAPA???

[shootr]

Uh oh...now you've done it Kharma! You've gone and done insulted Fox News. This will NOT go well for you. If you can't make it through the lounge listening to Fox News in the background you will not be able to handle check-in at any base. Good luck...

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[Kharma Police]

Uh oh...now you've done it Kharma! You've gone and done insulted Fox News. This will NOT go well for you. If you can't make it through the lounge listening to Fox News in the background you will not be able to handle check-in at any base. Good luck...

shootr

"FOX NEWS ALERT: AirTran Lawyers accused of doing their job by asking for a second look and also of hiding Iraqi WMD in Herndon, VA."

 

[Tweet-a-Lishus]

Airtran had their lawyers present when the process agreement was agreed upon. I think ALPA thinks they are the company doing the acquiring! This should get interesting?

 

[ivauir]

You manged to take a vanilla email and spin it to your agenda, well done! Before Southwest, did you work for Fox News or the National Inquirer?

"Vanilla email"?

Maybe, but let's review the facts before us:

- The ATN MEC has attended (all?) previous meetings

- It has been over 5 months and still no process agreement.

- A small language change to comply with the intent at the table could be accomplished over the phone, but ALPA is calling for more meetings.

Given those facts I wonder if anyone can answer the following:

- What issue drove the ATN MEC to become involved?
- Are these the same "concerns" that "should be addressed"
- Is the ATN Merger committee empowered to make deals?

And here are the hard questions:
- Was it, in fact, the MEC and not the lawyers who had an objection to the deal at the table?
- Does ALPA suffer from the misconception that on corporate close AirTran pilots have the same protections as Southwest pilots?
- Is ALPA intentionally delaying the process in order to begin direct negotiations after the date of corporate close because they believe that changes their leverage?

 

[Kharma Police]

"Vanilla email"?

Maybe, but let's review the facts before us:

- The ATN MEC has attended (all?) previous meetings

- It has been over 5 months and still no process agreement.

- A small language change to comply with the intent at the table could be accomplished over the phone, but ALPA is calling for more meetings.

Given those facts I wonder if anyone can answer the following:

- What issue drove the ATN MEC to become involved?
- Are these the same "concerns" that "should be addressed"
- Is the ATN Merger committee empowered to make deals?
And here are the hard questions:
- Was it, in fact, the MEC and not the lawyers who had an objection to the deal at the table?
- Does ALPA suffer from the misconception that on corporate close AirTran pilots have the same protections as Southwest pilots?
- Is ALPA intentionally delaying the process in order to begin direct negotiations after the date of corporate close because they believe that changes their leverage?

You and I aren't lawyers, that's why our Unions pay good money for legal teams to protect our interests. One lawyer at the meeting had the best interests of his clients to ask for a second opinion. I don't see what the big deal is. You wouldn't expect to have major surgery without seeking a second opinion from another Doctor, right?

 

[Roomwithaview]

The Reason

SWA M&A: "Man that tittybar was BUMPIN' the other night!

ATN M&A "Yeah and those steaks at dinner weren't bad either were they?"

SWA: "Hell no man, that there was 100% USDA PRIME! But gawdang. I don't think I could drink another glass of $100 a bottle wine, You?"

ATN:" Yeah, really sux that we agreed to the process agreement. You know, maybe we could figure out a way to drag this thing out a little longer"

SWA: "$hit yeah,Man. Blame the lawyers! That's what we always do!. "

ATN: "Really?"

SWA: "Hell YEAH, MAN! Works everytime!"

ATN: "We'll give it a shot! Whatya say? Del Friscos and Mons Venus in MCO next time around?"

SWA: "$hit yeah, brother. It's a date!"

 

[iluvflying]

SWA M&A: "Man that tittybar was BUMPIN' the other night!

ATN M&A "Yeah and those steaks at dinner weren't bad either were they?"

SWA: "Hell no man, that there was 100% USDA PRIME! But gawdang. I don't think I could drink another glass of $100 a bottle wine, You?"

ATN:" Yeah, really sux that we agreed to the process agreement. You know, maybe we could figure out a way to drag this thing out a little longer"

SWA: "$hit yeah,Man. Blame the lawyers! That's what we always do!. "

ATN: "Really?"

SWA: "Hell YEAH, MAN! Works everytime!"

ATN: "We'll give it a shot! Whatya say? Del Friscos and Mons Venus in MCO next time around?"

SWA: "$hit yeah, brother. It's a date!"

I knew you had a sense of humor. Nice post!

 

[Lonestar]

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As I've said in the past, i'm 31...who knows how the airline industry in 20 years will look? Which airline will be the "top dog"? I obviously hope the merger is successful and SWA is a very strong company in 20 years......unfortunately history haunts me.

1. As one who studies history, you should take comfort with the knowledge that you have been acquired by the most successful airline in the HISTORY of the industry, and one of the most admired companies in HISTORY.

2. I was 31 when hired at SWA and was confident that regardless of what the industry looked like in 20 years, SWA would be a strong company. Nothing has changed in that respect.

You talk of history but don't acknowledge that the history of SWA refleccts consistent profit and career enhancement, while the history of AirTran includes strikes and s&$bs(EAL), oppresive mgmt, shutdowns, lack of profitability, furloughs, and the threat of more strikes.

If history truly haunts you, you should sleep well tonight.

 

[MILF Hunter]

If I were an AirTran dude, the only history that would haunt me would be the mark that ALPA has left on past acquisitions. And it already seems as though history is repeating itself!

 

[funnyman12]

I agree with your statement, but I don't want to be naive to the realities of the airline industry. Many great airlines that had pilots with a similar success story as yours ended their career not at the same airline. For the past 20 years SW has treated you great and I hope SW has at least 20 more successful years ahead. Funny enough, if this deal goes through, I need 30+ years of SW success. That is A LOT of years....I'm just saying the best one decade can be the worst the next. More reasons to have this merger (yes the SEC filing on 2/1/11 by SW used the word merger hundreds of times and acquisition only a few) be a successful one with the revenue synergies achieved in the quickest possible time.

 

[scrub]

you guys are like crack addicts!!! you just can't put the pipe down!!!

 

[scoreboardII]

Funnyman,

So it's agreed, SWA's worst mistake could be to acquire an airline who's pilot unions goal is to cause as much strife as possible and therefore leave a legacy that ALPA fought and to some extent won against the almighty SWA machine. Irregardless of the outcome.

 

[General Lee]

I think it's great. ALPA legal found some loopholes. Too bad, soooo sad for SWAPA. Good try! Either do it fairly, or arbitrators will. I say go for the arbitration anyway, which will probably give a better result.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

I think it's great. ALPA legal found some loopholes. Too bad, soooo sad for SWAPA. Good try! Either do it fairly, or arbitrators will. I say go for the arbitration anyway, which will probably give a better result.


Bye Bye--General Lee

STREAKER!! STREAKER!!! get off the field naked man.

 

[bravodude]

"FOX NEWS ALERT: AirTran Lawyers accused of doing their job by asking for a second look and also of hiding Iraqi WMD in Herndon, VA."

I agree with what you said , your lawyers are just doing their job. But what would you call SWAPA negotiating a transition agreement with our mgmt.? Apparently the majority of Airtran pilots took that as a slap in the face so excuse us if we get a little jumpy, now its our turn.