ATN ALPA Backs Out of Process Agreement with SWAPA???

[boeing717]

Do you even realize that our MEC Chairman, MEC Vice Chairman, and LEC Chairman are all FO's, and have been, ever since ALPA was voted on the property? :laugh:

Why don't you stick to what you know . . . . alienating pax and making up delay codes. :laugh:

You are so easy. It does not take much to bring you out of your hole. Now go back in.

 

[Ty Webb]

You are so easy. It does not take much to bring you out of your hole. Now go back in.

Go back to yours. Sorry you washed out, buddy, but SWA ain't gonna give you a crack at it like we did.

 

[Kharma Police]

You are so easy. It does not take much to bring you out of your hole. Now go back in.

Friend, if you are who you say you are then you need to ask yourself, are you helping the situation by antagonizing your fellow coworkers or hurting the situation?

 

[iluvflying]

Friend, if you are who you say you are then you need to ask yourself, are you helping the situation by antagonizing your fellow coworkers or hurting the situation?

I was thinking the same thing. What is this guys goal coming on the thread and offending his co-workers. Which he believes is holding his future in their hands. What about the pilot's future? They have to fight for what is right for them and their family.

 

[boeing717]

Friend, if you are who you say you are then you need to ask yourself, are you helping the situation by antagonizing your fellow coworkers or hurting the situation?

I want to help you and Ty but it is very hard because you think you deserve more than you are entitled to. I do not want 1700 people to screw it up for the others. Why do you think your group is entitled to more than the rest. You are not entitled to more and hopefully the majority will realize that before you screw the whole deal up. Now, help Ty back into his hole. You need to talk to him and tell him not to be so easy. You would think being in his position he would be a little smarter but I guess he is just like the rest of us.

 

[Kharma Police]

I want to help you and Ty but it is very hard because you think you deserve more than you are entitled to. I do not want 1700 people to screw it up for the others. Why do you think your group is entitled to more than the rest. You are not entitled to more and hopefully the majority will realize that before you screw the whole deal up. Now, help Ty back into his hole. You need to talk to him and tell him not to be so easy. You would think being in his position he would be a little smarter but I guess he is just like the rest of us.

Friend, I have stated to the many Southwest pilots on this board that I don't feel entitled to anything, I will be happy regardless of the outcome. This process is out of my hands and yours too.

Just curious, what are the first digits of your employee number, what is your three digit department code (found on your I.D.), what is your non-rev boarding letter? I have a feeling that you are not who you say you are.

 

[boeing717]

Friend, I have stated to the many Southwest pilots on this board that I don't feel entitled to anything, I will be happy regardless of the outcome. This process is out of my hands and yours too.

Just curious, what are the first digits of your employee number, what is your three digit department code (found on your I.D.), what is your non-rev boarding letter? I have a feeling that you are not who you say you are.

If I send you an IM with the information do you promise not to give it Ty or post it on this site?

 

[Kharma Police]

If I send you an IM with the information do you promise not to give it Ty or post it on this site?

absolutely.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Don't do it! It's a trap!!!!

 

[Kharma Police]

Don't do it! It's a trap!!!!

Ha! Ha! Ha! (in a sinister laugh) yeeeessss, the ALPA Deadly Viper Assassination Squad (DVAS) has already been notified! You better watch out too, my friend!

 

[Lonestar]

I thought this was a pretty funny point of view from APC.

Its actually a bit amusing to me that this process of negotiating Process is taking so much time.

AirTran ALPA talks about the strong, firm language in their Section 1. Particularly the part about the 18 months for seperate ops, which they say must be adhered to. They say 18 months is more than enough time to fully integrate the operations of two airlines. They are now stretching the process of negotiating Process to nearly 1/3 of the time they think SWA should be able to fully integrate.

 

[dicko]

I thought this was a pretty funny point of view from APC.

So you're quoting yourself from a different website ? Clever. Nobody will ever guess.

 

[roughneck]

How did you get the name Dicko? Just curious.

 

[BlueBlood]

You guys should just have sex already.

It is going to be like you're a married couple - afterwards both of you are disappointed and yet still find yourselves in the same bed and it's too painful and expensive to do anything about it.

 

[Ty Webb]

You guys should just have sex already.

It is going to be like you're a married couple - afterwards both of you are disappointed and yet still find yourselves in the same bed and it's too painful and expensive to do anything about it.

:laugh::laugh::laugh: Post of the day. :beer:

 

[texman]

You guy's are going crazy!

 

[Tripower455]

You guys should just have sex already.

It is going to be like you're a married couple - afterwards both of you are disappointed and yet still find yourselves in the same bed and it's too painful and expensive to do anything about it.

LOL.... The truth hurts!

 

[Lear70]

As long as Ty and his followers continue down the road they are on, ALPA will survive. It will take the junior pilots to start to take control of their destiny. This group that follows people like Ty has been the problem for many years. They will poison SWA if and when they get a chance. The only good thing is there are only 1700 of them compared to 6000 with SWA. Good luck. All the employee groups would like to see this group changed.

ROFLMAO! That's hilarious... considering it's the junior pilots who killed T.A.'s 1 & 2, who crammed MemRat down the NPA's throat, brought ALPA on property and abolished the NPA, and who now control the union.

Seriously...

MEC Chairman - F/O
MEC Vice Chairman - F/O
LEC 71 Chairman - F/O
LEC 71 Vice Chair - Junior Reserve CA
Merger Committee - two F/O's, one Junior Reserve CA, one senior CA.

In other words, the junior pilots at this airline took control of their destiny about 3 1/2 years ago. Additionally, you're really giving the pilot group WAY too much credit thinking we would be able to kill a deal of this magnitude... which NONE of us want to do incidentally.

Sorry for the brief reality check; we now return you to your regularly-scheduled FI mud slinging.

 

[ASADFW7]

Lear what does it feel like being so close to being on the Swa. Cba and as each delay comes through is it frustrating?

 

[Lear70]

You know, I think most of us have realized it's going to be at least a year if not two and have gone back into just enjoying daily life mode. I can't complain, I'm getting 80 hours of credit on 18 days off, a 24 hour international (PUJ, CUN, AUA, etc) or LAS or SFO overnight at least once each trip, and with the raise we got in December, at least I'm earning a decent wage now for what I do. Not Southwest money, for sure, but with this kind of quality of life, I'm not worried if it takes a while to get it right.

We're all asking our MEC to proceed carefully, get it done right, but GET IT DONE. With all our MEC officers relatively junior (and young), they have a LOT of years they need to continue working in aviation and they need this as much as the rest of us do. That's why I'm not worried they're going to "burn down the house" or any other such thing, they have to live in it with the rest of us.

Hoping things work out sooner than later, if only for the cost savings to the new, combined company, and trying not to let the ups and downs of the process (no pun intended) get to me. Sorry this is frustrating you guys too, I know the unknowns of what it will do to everyone's seniority is a little scary, just have to have faith that it will all turn out well in the end.

Fly safe,

Oh yeah, been a couple posts since I put one of these at the end, I know someone out there loves them. :beer:

lol