Atlas Questions

[ERJFO]

Rumor has it that even a few new hires will be domestically based instead of heading directly to STN. That base award is scheduled to be out in the next couple of weeks. If you get based in STN you probably won't get reserve very often. Atlas doesn't fly out of STN and it would be a waist of money. STN is a hold over for the union busting operation (AACS now AABO). If they get rid of STN they have to get rid of those guys (about 55 now). So that is why they keep it instead of having a useful base like AMS or FRA in Europe where the flying is.

How likley are either of these senarios? I would like to be at Atlas if I didn't have to commercial from the west coast to Europe in coach everytime I start a trip.

I don't like the idea of using days off to get to work.

I'm hearing that when the new contract happens it'll be arbitrated and not negotiated - is this true? Any chance of some more days off, so not everyone owes the company 17 days?

 

[cfire]

I don't like the idea of using days off to get to work.

I'm hearing that when the new contract happens it'll be arbitrated and not negotiated - is this true? Any chance of some more days off, so not everyone owes the company 17 days?

I've pretty much always had to commute or move. I've decided to commute instead of moving every time a base got downsized or canned. I had to do that on my days off without tickets or a hotel unless I paid for it, to and from the base at every company I worked at until Atlas and only after we got gateway. At Atlas you get a hotel and airline ticket. Living at the base awarded solves that if you choose to. Patterns are built from and to bases for the total of 17 days. The question is do you want to live in the awarded base so as to not lose the day or the half day in communting depending on the circumstance?

As to the merged contract. Any one of the three parties (Atlas, Polar, Atlas Management) can vote any negotiated combined contract down. Things being what they are, I fully expect Polar or Atlas Management to vote anything down under the sun. Then we would go to arbitration for an arbiter to decide what everyone gets. No vote or strike for the Atlas crews or Polar crews. Just a contract formed by an arbiter.

I'm hoping to combine the Polar work rules with the Atlas pay scale, hopefully keeping this away from an arbiter. Arbiters tend to not make things too difficult for an employer/company. Judging from history, Polar will do everything they can to shoot everyone in the foot including themselves.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Judging from history, Polar will do everything they can to shoot everyone in the foot including themselves.

And also judging from history, certain Atlas pilots will never admit that Atlas pilots are even a small part of the "problem".

 

[b747dogg]

And also judging from history, certain Atlas pilots will never admit that Atlas pilots are even a small part of the "problem".

Everyone knows the Polar guys are the problem! Enjoy.

 

[jsand757]

Does anyone know how long and in what form, ie letter or call, HR notifies you after the interview? Anyone hear that interviewed recently?

 

[ERJFO]

I've pretty much always had to commute or move. I've decided to commute instead of moving every time a base got downsized or canned. I had to do that on my days off without tickets or a hotel unless I paid for it, to and from the base at every company I worked at until Atlas and only after we got gateway. At Atlas you get a hotel and airline ticket. Living at the base awarded solves that if you choose to. Patterns are built from and to bases for the total of 17 days. The question is do you want to live in the awarded base so as to not lose the day or the half day in communting depending on the circumstance?

I just don't want to ride in coach from the west cost of the US to Europe to start work. You say patterns are build from and to bases, but there is no Atlas flying in STN.

I guess unlike your previous situations, where I work now I can fly trips that have me leaving my house around 1000-1200 on the first day and back before 1500 on the last day of the trip. While I don't get paid for the commute I don't waste a day off doing it, heck - I don't even wake up early.

I guess I'll wait and see what comes with this new contract. More than 13 days off a month for senior people, some sort of line protection, and real gateway for STN based guys would really be the icing on the cake.

 

[spitfire1500]

Heres a link to the Atlas/Polar collective bargaining agreements:


http://www.atlasair.com/holdings/cb/default.asp

 

[I.P. Freley]

Everyone knows the Polar guys are the problem! Enjoy.

I know, I know!!