Atlas picks up two DHL contracts

[LarryinTN]

They (DHL) should have settled up in SAC or Mather.

MHR doesn't even have a full (1800 RVR) Cat I approach though they'd probably have room for the facility.

By SAC do you mean SMF or somewhere else? The sort facility at RIV is a very large truck sort as well as the air sort. I'm not sure that SMF would have had the room.

I also think that they wanted it closer to (i.e. in) the LA Basin for truck access to LAX. Just guessing on that, though, as they load a lot of cans into trucks that are labeled for international belly freight out of LAX.

 

[nitefr8dog]

"110 water". 10 to 25 seconds later, the relative silence was deafening! (Apologies for the thread drift - just couldn't he'p myself...)

The YS-11 had water meth injection does that count?

 

[Fly Astar Jets]

My Bad

MHR doesn't even have a full (1800 RVR) Cat I approach though they'd probably have room for the facility.

By SAC do you mean SMF or somewhere else? The sort facility at RIV is a very large truck sort as well as the air sort. I'm not sure that SMF would have had the room.

I also think that they wanted it closer to (i.e. in) the LA Basin for truck access to LAX. Just guessing on that, though, as they load a lot of cans into trucks that are labeled for international belly freight out of LAX.

You're right on both counts LJ, I meant to type SMF. And after I posted, I did recall the selection of RIV was, in part, a logistical compromise for the reason you stated and also I thought to service points south of LA better. Still, the NIMBY's are being a$$holes.

FAJ

 

[ABXbooger]

I have had conversations with people that deal with the complaints that come in from the nimbys. Funny thing about all this is that 95% of the complaints come from just a few people, calling almost every night. One lady wants us to turn off our radar so we don't give her tumors...I have also heard some other doozies.

RIV does seem like a little bit of a mistake. I think there were other options that might have been better.

One of the biggest problems there is the inability to taxi with RVR below 1200, even though we are allowed a 600 RVR takeoff, something to do with the military requirement?

 

[b707guy]

One lady wants us to turn off our radar so we don't give her tumors...I have also heard some other doozies.

Did she use her circa-1995 analog cell phone to lodge the complaint?

Regarding facilities, an airport (MHR for instance) can become whatever the primary user wants it to be. If it can be certified for lower vis minimums, it will be, if that user ponies up whatever capital is needed to make it what they want.

 

[aviatrix767]

Did she use her circa-1995 analog cell phone to lodge the complaint?

Someone like that probably doesn't even know about cell phones. I'm guess she probably used the old rotary-dial phone. :laugh:

 

[shooter]

I have had conversations with people that deal with the complaints that come in from the nimbys. Funny thing about all this is that 95% of the complaints come from just a few people, calling almost every night. One lady wants us to turn off our radar so we don't give her tumors...I have also heard some other doozies.

RIV does seem like a little bit of a mistake. I think there were other options that might have been better.

One of the biggest problems there is the inability to taxi with RVR below 1200, even though we are allowed a 600 RVR takeoff, something to do with the military requirement?

You can still take off with the reduced RVR, it's getting there that is the problem. So if you taxi out and then the visibility drops, we are still good to go. It is my understanding there is no low visibility taxi operations for the airfield that is stopping the show. The military holding us back would be that they are the ones that need to get that procedure in place and published. Well, look who's base it is and you can see why it has not/will not be done any time soon.

p.s.; when you guys fly into RIV keep in mind there are two different RVR systems in place there. The RVR the tower reports is real time and what needs to be used. But if you read the published RVR, it is from the military RVR system and uses an average over the past 10 minutes. (3 or 10 minutes. I forget exactly right now but amount of time is not relevant right now) So you can be inside waiting for the weather to improve, see a METAR push across and think you are good to go only to find that the tower is reporting something completely different. The tower is frustrated with the two systems as well, but again....military base.