ATI Crewmembers Vote 100 Percent in Favor of Strike

[shooter]

was pretty tasteless true, but I did here that management is going to push ATI and if they do go on strike they plan on bringing in abx. Obviously abx loses their ride in the next couple of months and will have plenty of lift to repo to toledo, if ATI goes out.

to help the ATI guys the ABX mec should make it perfectly clear NO ABX aircraft are going to TOL if ATI goes out. I know that the mec here at cappy is already getting their ducks in row with ALPA and legal to send that message to management.

Cappy is already in a strange situation because we do, do ATI trips often. So the mec is working with legal on a definition of what we can and cannot due.

Should be more cut and dry with ABX since your not in Toledo already. Cappy doesnt have the resources and personnel anyways to do any extra flying, but ABX certainly is going to have plenty of lift doing nothing.

Man, that was painful to read. Is English a 2nd language for you?

 

[727Niteflyer]

si amigo gracias

 

[FastHap]

... And while it would be within reason that we slap down ABX's contract and say "let's negotiate", we're not even asking for that much. We're being more than reasonable with our management....

Are you referring to the "current" ABX Air pilot contract? You might want to start thinking about what's going to happen when ATSG brings you the "NEW" ABX Air pilot contract.

 

[727Niteflyer]

ABX soon isnt going to have to worry about a contract

 

[l8fr82hub]

Are you referring to the "current" ABX Air pilot contract? You might want to start thinking about what's going to happen when ATSG brings you the "NEW" ABX Air pilot contract.

Have you guys negotiated a concessionary contract or is one in the works?

 

[b707guy]

Our performance history says to me that ATI can still make money even if we operated under ABX's current contract, with the possible exception of the pension plan that we don't have and never will have. This company has been incredibly profitable over the years, and someone other than us has been benefiting from it. Our non-CBA mechanics have taken it right up the backside for years, way more than we have, and we've taken it up the wazoo ever since our contract became amendable. Ever since we voted in this contract, in fact. I'd offer that ATSG could survive on our profits alone, but we'll still smother in the labor compensation rhetoric oozing from ATSG.

 

[FastHap]

Have you guys negotiated a concessionary contract or is one in the works?

There will probably be a concessionary contract in place at ABX Air no later than January 30th, 2009. If not, ABX Air management will be in court on January 31st to have our current contract vacated.

 

[727Niteflyer]

Our performance history says to me that ATI can still make money even if we operated under ABX's current contract, with the possible exception of the pension plan that we don't have and never will have. This company has been incredibly profitable over the years, and someone other than us has been benefiting from it. Our non-CBA mechanics have taken it right up the backside for years, way more than we have, and we've taken it up the wazoo ever since our contract became amendable. Ever since we voted in this contract, in fact. I'd offer that ATSG could survive on our profits alone, but we'll still smother in the labor compensation rhetoric oozing from ATSG.

Just remember according to the ABX pilots as soon as ABX loses its ride ATSG will bankrupt and shutdown. No profits at ATI or Cappy.

 

[metrodriver]

I heard some rumors of lay-offs / furloughs at ATI?
Does this have to do with the strike vote or just bad economy?

 

[727Niteflyer]

always talked about this time of year. just because the freight slows down so much.

 

[Flyer8]

They will have a lot of fun laying off all their newly qualified 767 drivers as they are almost all junior assigned(Miami Base). They will go first before any DC-8 guys...Then they can junior assign a bunch more new guys and begin the training process anew..

 

[FastHap]

They will have a lot of fun laying off all their newly qualified 767 drivers as they are almost all junior assigned(Miami Base). They will go first before any DC-8 guys...Then they can junior assign a bunch more new guys and begin the training process anew..

... or just use ABX to do the Miami flying.

 

[DC-8_FR8]

I heard some rumors of lay-offs / furloughs at ATI?
Does this have to do with the strike vote or just bad economy?

Did the voices tell you that one??? From what I hear, they will be heading in the other direction next year.

 

[727Niteflyer]

... or just use ABX to do the Miami flying.

I hope Im wrong but like I said before If ATI goes out on strike I wonder how many ABX guys will jump in to MIA and TOL. I think the above quote says alot.

 

[FastHap]

I hope Im wrong but like I said before If ATI goes out on strike I wonder how many ABX guys will jump in to MIA and TOL. I think the above quote says alot.

Please don't try and put words in my mouth.

I was referring to the possibility that ATI would furlough, thus depleting their "new" MIA domicile. I made no reference to TOL whatsoever.

ABX has had a MIA domicile for over 10 years.