ATA expanding at MDW--Again

[mach zero]

ATA was an LCC too so that means that you ,757jetflier, helped cause the demise of the industry as well (according to your definitions).

If you really want to talk about sh#$%y pilot pay lets look at how badly American Trans Air paid its pilots for the majority of its existence. For the longest time, ATA was a stepping stone for many because of the low pay.

You want someone to blame for losing your job at ATA? Try George or John Tague or ATA ALPA and their FE agenda. It's not SWA's fault. They merely took advantage of the situation after the ship was lost.

I get sick and tired of hearing about the so-called anti-ATA agenda that the SWA PD has. They hired me and they have hired many of the fine people I know and worked with over at ATA and they continue to hire them.

 

[GuppyWN]

757flier.

SWA/FO missed out on sensitivity training day but he's not afraid to call a spade a spade. He doesn't mince words.

The very best guy I know in the entire universe got an interview here and didn't get hired. I was sick to my stomach. Couldn't believe it. They saw something they didn't like about him - that day.

On your race to the bottom jab. Yeah. You have not a clue. I made over 150k last year...... as a copilot. I bid at least 18 days off every month. And I'm not a super senior dude. I bid 20% in my domicile. If that's racing to the bottom then git 'er done!

Gup

 

[canyonblue]

You want someone to blame for losing your job at ATA? Try George or John Tague or ATA ALPA and their FE agenda. It's not SWA's fault. They merely took advantage of the situation after the ship was lost.

Speaking of ships, these are the same type of guys who blame the iceberg for sinking the Titanic.

 

[HalinTexas]

First of all, let this die already. It's getting really stupid on all sides. Not worth 6 pages.

Yes, there are many at ATA that are bitter, for a variety of reasons, most are NOT. Most are hopeful something better will come of this, and ATA will thrive.

If anyone should be bitter its me! Me, me me!

I've been turned down three times already! (How embarrassing.) But I'm still trying to get on! Still waiting for yet another chance.

Let this stupid junior high sh!t stop already.

 

[atafan]

I completely agree with HalinTexas!

We have a very small minority at ATA that is bitter but you only see a few that post on here that cry in the mirror everyday. Most everyone I know at ATA has been around the block a few times and have a very balanced view of this messed up industry. We know that who's on top today may not be there tomorrow and the bottom feeders may rise to the top another day, that's the nature of this business.

I have to admit that SWA is different than any other airline I have observed. They seem to just do what they do and the industry morphs around them. They discovered early that when you have a formula that works you stick with it and only tweak it.

The very best guy I know in the entire universe got an interview here and didn't get hired. I was sick to my stomach. Couldn't believe it. They saw something they didn't like about him - that day

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I too have seen the interview process act without common sense, good guys get rejected while the jack*sses got hired. I must say that with regards to SWA and ATA hiring, I've seen really great guys get flamed but I haven't seen one a-hole make it through the process. Without exception, I would have hired every guy that SWA did, seems to work better than any other airline I have seen from my seat far from the action.

 

[Esprit]

SWA/FO,

The only thing needing stapled around here is your arrogant mouth.

Esprit

 

[SWA/FO]

SWA/FO,

The only thing needing stapled around here is your arrogant mouth.

the SWA/FO now says "I wanted a staple job, but that was before I knew that Southwest was not going to buy ATA... now I'm in favor of DOH according to ALPA merger rules, which I will fight SWAPA for, now that I know." Just give me back my QC2/U-flymike.....oh, and vote for me.

 

[CaptSeth]

I don't believe we have to worry about a merger. But I will say this: when it's time to negotiate contracts, it's best to have a unified membership.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Nice post!

Yeah, I went in there like I owned the freaking place and I was owed a left seat job from the start. Raising hell and throwing chairs around. When I started running around naked swinging a bullwhip...

If there's any other way to conduct an interview, I am not aware of it.:laugh: