ASA's Drew Bedson - bye bye?

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Any predictions????

Trojan

Jeesh - I really need to stay away from this thread.

I just hope that with the changes we can get objective administration of the airline's safety management and get ASAP on the property without having to give up basic employment rights.

Don't get me wrong, ASA is a very safe airline and our pilots are trained to a high standard. But, there are ways we could improve our systems to reduce costs, improve on time performance and run a better operation. We could improve a lot if our pilots and management could partner together on solutions.

 

[atrdriver]

But, there are ways we could improve our systems to reduce costs, improve on time performance and run a better operation. We could improve a lot if our pilots and management could partner together on solutions.

Amen.

 

[capt.snitch]

I heard that Drew has been in trouble he got rid of SY to save his own job. He tried to knock off BL and climb over his back to be the annointed one. I don't know if this is true but anyone who has seen the top management people in a group since SY got canned has noticed that SB and BL completely ignored DB. Bedson just never learned to keep his mouth shut and always had to be the center of attention. Nobody should try to be the center of attention at the expense of BL or SB.

BTW, BL is not qualified to be the director of ops. Read the regs.

 

[Huck]

Bedson just never learned to keep his mouth shut

Told me in '99 I was ruining my career by leaving to fly freight. Pulled me in D. Robertson's old office and shut the door to do it. Really nice, as I had already turned in my paperwork and was leaving regardless.

Later I worked at Gemini with ex-Reflectone instructors who had worked with him. His reputation was the same there.

He was better than Bubba, but not by much....

 

[capt.snitch]

It doesn't matter why they got rid of him. As obnoxious as he is, the real problem is that he didn't come from Delta. (And we all know that only Delta knows how to run an airline.) ASA just fired the finance vp less than a month ago and he wasn't former Delta. BL is cleaning house, paying off his Delta pals and planning for his take-over of Skip's position. It has been obvious since CT became a SVP that the company was headed towards BL becoming SVP Operations (running ALL operations) and CT becoming SVP Administration and running everything else.

BL will have to find someone qualified to run flight operations and he will probably be from Delta. Any suggestion that someone like CS can possible do the job is ill informed. They have moved him to negotiations on his was out of management. No one in the GO has any respect for "Capt" Smith. He had better hope that he can learn to fly. Talk says that he can't fly and will never make it in the jet. I don't think he ever fully checked out in the ATR. All he does is walk around trying to make everyone his friend while bragging about how he is "running the airline." CS had his head so far up DB's posterior that he can't see through the s__t.

 

[Freebrd]

I am not knocking DW as he was truly the line pilot's friend when he VP Ops., and when he ran training. A great guy for sure. Most people know the reason he would never be selected back for a management position. That's all I will say about this as I totally respect and support DW.

DAL employees are slowly taking over all management positions at ASA, and will continue to do so. Maybe they'll replace CT. After all, only DAL management knows how to run an airline, quarantee their pensions, pay themselves bonuses for poor perfromance, etc etc.

 

[Tim47SIP]

Who knows?

Well, maybe we will get lucky and let Delta's crew schedulers take over for our less than stellar performers. Hey, it could happen

 

[Bizjet]

It doesn't matter why they got rid of him. As obnoxious as he is, the real problem is that he didn't come from Delta. (And we all know that only Delta knows how to run an airline.) ASA just fired the finance vp less than a month ago and he wasn't former Delta. BL is cleaning house, paying off his Delta pals and planning for his take-over of Skip's position. It has been obvious since CT became a SVP that the company was headed towards BL becoming SVP Operations (running ALL operations) and CT becoming SVP Administration and running everything else.

BL will have to find someone qualified to run flight operations and he will probably be from Delta. Any suggestion that someone like CS can possible do the job is ill informed. They have moved him to negotiations on his was out of management. No one in the GO has any respect for "Capt" Smith. He had better hope that he can learn to fly. Talk says that he can't fly and will never make it in the jet. I don't think he ever fully checked out in the ATR. All he does is walk around trying to make everyone his friend while bragging about how he is "running the airline." CS had his head so far up DB's posterior that he can't see through the s__t.

This airline can't function without CS. Every Goundhog day CS pulls his head out of SB's posterior and if he sees his shadow ASA orders 50 more gallons of deicer fluid. He also knows which way to face when praying to the Delta Widget.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Well, here's a little gasoline for the fire...

Aparently, Chicago Express's VP of Flight Operations was offered the ASA job a couple of times. Maybe they want some fresh blood...?

Well, I don't care if Drew was shifty-eyed, he had my unblinking support.








(Remember SIDA!)

 

[701EV]

My money is on someone from Delta, is going to be the Sr VP of flight ops. I also would not be suprised to see Joe Kolshack(sp) becomes the Sr VP of flight ops. Just as GG moved FB into Comair. If you look at everything they are taking more control little by little.

Just a thought

701EV

 

[CF34-3B1]

I wonder what Bubba is doing these days..................

 

[USCtrojan]

Leadership changes

I wonder what Bubba is doing these days..................

Don't EVER EVER say that again, that sent chills up me spine!! ;-)

Trojan

 

[Huck]

I wonder what Bubba is doing these days..................

I was having lunch at the Bar B Q Kitchen about 2000 and saw him eating with DB and Mister Ed.

It was kind of classy, though, having "Bubba S." on the official list of those with operational authority in the airline.

If I were you guys, I'd be worried about the group of instructors that left in the late nineties to go to Delta training. You may get some of them back in management - we called 'em the Hitler Youth.

In those days the #1 prerequisite for the training department was being non-union.

 

[ifly4food]

Here's my take on this whole thing... Delta has finally sent the signal to clean house.

Grinstien's mission is to hack Delta up, lower its cost, and sell it. Probably to Continental. No airline to buy Delta (esopecially Continental) wants to take on Delta's troubled stepchildren, ASA and Comair, so ASA and Comair will have to go before the sale.

Comair is going to take their concessions and get EMB 170s. This makes them an excellent candidate to be spun off. Now Delta has to focus on getting ASA to the same place, because you can't spin off or sell an airline with labor trouble. It has become abundantly clear from the current stalemate in our negotiations that neither side wants to budge. The only way Delta will get our contract settled is to replace one side or the other, and since ALPA can't be fired, they are going to remove the obstructionist good old boys that can't get along with the pilots. This will pave the way for settling our contract, and then eventually spinning us off too.

Bedson was the tip of the iceberg. I actually expect to see Thibideau go, along with most of the middle managers, all to be replaced with "Delta People".

 

[capt.snitch]

My money is on someone from Delta, is going to be the Sr VP of flight ops. I also would not be suprised to see Joe Kolshack(sp) becomes the Sr VP of flight ops. Just as GG moved FB into Comair. If you look at everything they are taking more control little by little.

Just a thought

701EV

701EV

No way will anyone ever be Sr VP Ops. Flight Operations is now under BL and it will remain there until he replaces Skip. After Skip retires and BL takes over, another Delta manager will take BL's position. I don't see CT leaving. He has strong credentials, he was Carl Ichan's hatchet man at TWA.

 

[USCtrojan]

Leadership blah blah blah

Here's my take on this whole thing... Delta has finally sent the signal to clean house.

Grinstien's mission is to hack Delta up, lower its cost, and sell it. Probably to Continental. No airline to buy Delta (esopecially Continental) wants to take on Delta's troubled stepchildren, ASA and Comair, so ASA and Comair will have to go before the sale.

Comair is going to take their concessions and get EMB 170s. This makes them an excellent candidate to be spun off. Now Delta has to focus on getting ASA to the same place, because you can't spin off or sell an airline with labor trouble. It has become abundantly clear from the current stalemate in our negotiations that neither side wants to budge. The only way Delta will get our contract settled is to replace one side or the other, and since ALPA can't be fired, they are going to remove the obstructionist good old boys that can't get along with the pilots. This will pave the way for settling our contract, and then eventually spinning us off too.

Bedson was the tip of the iceberg. I actually expect to see Thibideau go, along with most of the middle managers, all to be replaced with "Delta People".

Sounds logical. I wonder though, does Continental or anyone for that matter, have the cash to purchase/merge? Doesn't Northwest have a voting member on Continental's board? And if they did, how would that effect a merger/buyout assuming governmental approval? A buddy of mine has been convinced the shutting down of Dallas was paving the way for a Continental merge (Making Houston the big gateway).

 

[Typhoon1244]

Okay, I can't believe nobody got this...

Well, I don't care if Drew was shifty-eyed, he had my unblinking support.

Hello? Is this thing on?

 

[viper01]

that was a funny unblinking video

 

[WOXOF All Day]

I was unfortunately visiting the "palace" last week and ran in to Scott Young leaving the G. O. What's up with that, I wonder?

 

[asarjfo]

I was unfortunately visiting the "palace" last week and ran in to Scott Young leaving the G. O. What's up with that, I wonder?

I hope that is just some cruel joke...............

 

[WOXOF All Day]

Probably so, I think the FAA has an office there....but at least he was a pilot and understood the game

 

[Ted Striker]

I hope that is just some cruel joke...............

He's with the FAA. Can't have anything to do with ASA for two years after his departure, which is probaby coming up soon.

 

[shamrock]

I was unfortunately visiting the "palace" last week and ran in to Scott Young......

Please tell me it was with your car!

 

[WOXOF All Day]

Boy how did he get such a bad rep? He did work for Bedson remember. Personally, he was a straight up guy. I always figured he was a big advocate of the pilot group, but forced to "walk the walk" by the drewster. He had a great rep with the pilot group at TWE when he was Dir. Ops.there...Oh the games we play

 

[Sinca3]

Dick Young

Actually he was a $hit at TWE/TSA also!

 

[WOXOF All Day]

Wrong airline sinca---he was with Trans World Express Inc. the wholly owned out of Philly. You are obviously another Bob Arnold Kool Aid Kid.

 

[capt.snitch]

He's with the FAA. Can't have anything to do with ASA for two years after his departure, which is probaby coming up soon.

He will never be able to do anything with ASA. Because he is married to one of our senior captains, he has a vested interest in ASA.

 

[capt.snitch]

Actually he was a $hit at TWE/TSA also!

WOXOF is right. Young was never at TWE/TSA. We have enough to complain about without inventing urban legends. If you know something, say it. But don't invent it!

 

[WOXOF All Day]

He will never be able to do anything with ASA. Because he is married to one of our senior captains, he has a vested interest in ASA.

I heard that---wasn't sure if it was a rumor or what. Did he really get fired for dating her? What a joke. Skippy thought it was okay to date when he was with DL---his wife worked for him.

 

[CF34-3B1]

Anyone who refered to himself as "The Director of Pilot Attrition" was not a "big advocate of the pilot group"