ASA's Drew Bedson - bye bye?

[sleepy]

I am not sure that Drew Bedson was even a human life form. He will end up at another airline, they always do.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

He will never be able to do anything with ASA. Because he is married to one of our senior captains, he has a vested interest in ASA.

Scott Young is married to Chromer Smith??? Who knew????

 

[Sinca3]

Wrong airline sinca---he was with Trans World Express Inc. the wholly owned out of Philly. You are obviously another Bob Arnold Kool Aid Kid.

Were you at either TWE or TSA? If I got it worng then so be it but to attack me and call me a Kool Aid drinker.......now that's funny!! As for calling me a kid well I won't stoop to calling someone like yourself names....and I'll leave it at that.
Cheers
ps Is that you Scott?

 

[Bizjet]

Boy how did he get such a bad rep? He did work for Bedson remember. Personally, he was a straight up guy. I always figured he was a big advocate of the pilot group, but forced to "walk the walk" by the drewster. He had a great rep with the pilot group at TWE when he was Dir. Ops.there...Oh the games we play

Scott got the last laugh. He got a full pardon, a new suit, 37 dollars, and a better job. While the rest of us are still here serving time and waiting on the next parole board.

 

[atrdriver]

Scott got the last laugh. He got a full pardon, a new suit, 37 dollars, and a better job. While the rest of us are still here serving time and waiting on the next parole board.

That's the way it always works.

 

[asarjfo]

Boy how did he get such a bad rep? He did work for Bedson remember. Personally, he was a straight up guy. I always figured he was a big advocate of the pilot group, but forced to "walk the walk" by the drewster. He had a great rep with the pilot group at TWE when he was Dir. Ops.there...Oh the games we play

I can tell you from personal experience that he was NOT an advocate for the pilot group and far from a straight shooter. I made a mistake, happens now and again, and Scott's only interest was to hang me out to dry. He had no interest in being my advocate, just keeping the company out of trouble.

 

[WOXOF All Day]

Were you at either TWE or TSA? If I got it worng then so be it but to attack me and call me a Kool Aid drinker.......now that's funny!! As for calling me a kid well I won't stoop to calling someone like yourself names....and I'll leave it at that.
Cheers
ps Is that you Scott?

No, I am not Scott. I had a conversation with him at flight safety and asked him if he knew a friend of mine at Trans States. He explained that he was with the TWE in the northeast that had been Pan Am. He seemed to be a nice guy and happy to be gone.

 

[GMY]

Well I've been reading this forum for a few months and now feel I must respond. Scott is indeed in a much better place and doing just fine at the FAA. It is amazing what working 40 hours a week versus 60+ and weekends on call will do to enhance a life. It's interesting that the people who worked with or around him seem to have a completely different appreciation than the people who listened to rhetoric from a couple of union reps. Anyway, just a little support from home!!

Regards,

GMY

 

[asarjfo]

Well I've been reading this forum for a few months and now feel I must respond. Scott is indeed in a much better place and doing just fine at the FAA. It is amazing what working 40 hours a week versus 60+ and weekends on call will do to enhance a life. It's interesting that the people who worked with or around him seem to have a completely different appreciation than the people who listened to rhetoric from a couple of union reps. Anyway, just a little support from home!!

Regards,

GMY

Mine was not rhetoric from a couple of union reps. Maybe he a nice guys outside of work, but at ASA he was no friend to the pilot group.

 

[Palerider957]

I cannot believe people on this board are singng the praises of Scott and Drew. ASA is a much better place without them. The fact that Scott went to the FAA pretty much the DAY AFTER he got shi.t canned at ASA, is frightening.

Another idiot, who couldn't fly a plane to save his life, hence his overt hostility to real pilots, at the FAA. This is a sad say indeed.

 

[Palerider957]

When all is said and done, Scott and Drew are yesterdays news. Who cares where the have gone, I'm only grateful that they are GONE.

As for the rest of management, and contract talks===ASA WAKE UP, THE RED COATS ARE ON THE MARCH!

 

[GMY]

I cannot believe people on this board are singng the praises of Scott and Drew. ASA is a much better place without them. The fact that Scott went to the FAA pretty much the DAY AFTER he got shi.t canned at ASA, is frightening.

Another idiot, who couldn't fly a plane to save his life, hence his overt hostility to real pilots, at the FAA. This is a sad say indeed.

1. The fact that Scott went to the FAA immediately only indicates he is qualified and respected there. He chose not to leave Georgia to take another position in management.

2. Have you flown with him? He was an active airline pilot prior to entering management, a Navy captain, and holds 13 type ratings. I guess that and 16+ thousand hours is merely a fluke.


Need any other information --pm me


Mitzi Young

 

[letthebigdogeat]

The only time I came across SY was during my recurrent. He came in to talk to the class and pretty much downright belittled and made fun of the crew in JFK with the O2/jumpseat/defer issue. Not very professional, and dam%n sure not a good first impression. That sure did not help better his reputation, because when he left, he left some pretty pi$$ed off 24 pilots.

 

[ifly4food]

1. The fact that Scott went to the FAA immediately only indicates he is qualified and respected there. He chose not to leave Georgia to take another position in management.

2. Have you flown with him? He was an active airline pilot prior to entering management, a Navy captain, and holds 13 type ratings. I guess that and 16+ thousand hours is merely a fluke.


Need any other information --pm me


Mitzi Young

Sorry, Mitzi, but I think you might be just a LITTLE biased.

While I've heard Scott made a turn around since leaving (yes, he's even got a good relationship with Bob Arnold now), Scott was a dick at ASA.

I personally witnessed many occasions when Scott decided to throw a pilot who made a mistake under the bus to save ASA. He practically invented the "self disclosure" policy we see today. Scott was parenoid and delusional. I witnessed a meeting in his office when the union presented a proposal to settle a grieviance and Scott went off: "You fuc*ing fuc*ers, this is a personal attack". He took everything personally. He also mismanaged just about everything he involved himself in. I can think of at least three arbitrations that ALPA won, because Scott testified and made an ass of himself. He was all rhetoric, and usually wrong. Scott also had a bit of a credibility problem. On at least three occasions, Scott straight up lied about paying a pilot who had been shafted. The TZ case is probably the best example of this.

No, Scott is not quite the saint you seem to think he is. He was a ruthless manager, who fired pilots at the drop of a hat. He hated the union and tried to spite them at every opportunity. He screwed up just about everything he touched, and it was only a matter of time that he got canned.

I heard the official reason for firing him was that he was with you when he should have been at an important meeting he called with the FAA. Confirm?

 

[GMY]

Sorry, Mitzi, but I think you might be just a LITTLE biased.

While I've heard Scott made a turn around since leaving (yes, he's even got a good relationship with Bob Arnold now), Scott was a dick at ASA.

I personally witnessed many occasions when Scott decided to throw a pilot who made a mistake under the bus to save ASA. He practically invented the "self disclosure" policy we see today. Scott was parenoid and delusional. I witnessed a meeting in his office when the union presented a proposal to settle a grieviance and Scott went off: "You fuc*ing fuc*ers, this is a personal attack". He took everything personally. He also mismanaged just about everything he involved himself in. I can think of at least three arbitrations that ALPA won, because Scott testified and made an ass of himself. He was all rhetoric, and usually wrong. Scott also had a bit of a credibility problem. On at least three occasions, Scott straight up lied about paying a pilot who had been shafted. The TZ case is probably the best example of this.

No, Scott is not quite the saint you seem to think he is. He was a ruthless manager, who fired pilots at the drop of a hat. He hated the union and tried to spite them at every opportunity. He screwed up just about everything he touched, and it was only a matter of time that he got canned.

I heard the official reason for firing him was that he was with you when he should have been at an important meeting he called with the FAA. Confirm?

Obviously anything I say to you will not matter, as you seem to have all the answers. You are correct, I am biased but I think not quite as much as you.
How many of us were issued violations during his tenure? Do you know? How many pilots were subject to violations and did not receive them due to him?
On whose word do you rely? The union. Hmm, that is a source of unvarnished truth for sure. Do you know the true circumstances of the very few pilots that were fired during that time? I doubt if you did you would be able to disagree with the decisions.

Answer to last question is no. I am not aware of any FAA meeting he missed because of ANYTHING. I wouldn't think the FAA would jump to hire someone they considered dishonest or unreliable.

Peace

 

[ifly4food]

Do you know the true circumstances of the very few pilots that were fired during that time? I doubt if you did you would be able to disagree with the decisions.

Yes.

I do.

Mitzi, why do you hate the union? Are you even a member?

 

[GMY]

Yes.

I do.

Mitzi, why do you hate the union? Are you even a member?

I beg to differ

No I don't hate the union, I dislike the lies from either side and I care about the survival of the company.

M

 

[ifly4food]

I beg to differ

No I don't hate the union, I dislike the lies from either side and I care about the survival of the company.

M

Now that's a fair statement. We'll have to agree to disagree about Scott's record during his tenure.

That said, I am truly glad to hear that Scott is doing well in his new career and that you and he are happy.

 

[GMY]

Now that's a fair statement. We'll have to agree to disagree about Scott's record during his tenure.

That said, I am truly glad to hear that Scott is doing well in his new career and that you and he are happy.

I can see why you are a moderator here. Good discussion and respectful dialog, thank you.

 

[bailout]

Scott is a putz. He is the one who sat down and "reinterprated" our contract to find all the loopholes, like not getting 2 days off after 3 naps.

 

[InclusiveScope]

Your right 701. I'm just not used to seeing people sign their names on here.

 

[701EV]

Scpoe,

She signed her own name.

701EV

 

[ifly4food]

Inclusivescope, you blew it.

I'm sick of your shenanegins here... you have been warned three times against trying to out people, especially me. And here you do it again.

Mitzi did indeed sign here name. You had no right to do what you did.

You are permanently banned!

 

[asarjfo]

Inclusivescope, you blew it.

I'm sick of your shenanegins here... you have been warned three times against trying to out people, especially me. And here you do it again.

Mitzi did indeed sign here name. You had no right to do what you did.

You are permanently banned!

Did I miss something? I thought GMY signed her name, nobody "outed" her......did they?

 

[Tim47SIP]

Dont do it!

IFF, let it go. You are showing your bias here. Granted, he doesn't agree with you, but you don't have to ban him because he doesn't agree with you. I thought you were better than that considering you are a "moderator" and all. He hasn't done anything worse than many of the posters on this board have.

 

[ifly4food]

IFF, let it go. You are showing your bias here. Granted, he doesn't agree with you, but you don't have to ban him because he doesn't agree with you. I thought you were better than that considering you are a "moderator" and all. He hasn't done anything worse than many of the posters on this board have.

IS has been banned because he posted my name yesterday. He had been warned twice before not to do that.

His excuse was that he thought I outed GMY, but in fact, she signed her name.

IS is banned for violating the cardinal rule of this forum... anonymity. End of story.

"Tim", I do not appreciate your accusations of bias, nor your lecturing tone.

 

[Tim47SIP]

I Concede!

I didn't see J's post had been edited. If you look at the posts as they are, you can see why it looked like you were primarily in disagreement. You are right though, he shouldnt have posted a name as that could be detrimental if management was able to tie some faces to some of these screen names. I stand corrected! Tim.

 

[~~~^~~~]

IFly:

Would you reconsider Inclusive Scope's ban?

The purpose of this board is to amuse the bored & severely sleep deprived with witty commentary, news, rumors and useful information. Could you execute a waiver of Inclusive's exclusion, or make an exception to Inclusive's exclusion?

Besides, everyone knows who I am,
Fuzzzo


If he didn't Ident - You must relent!

Still in mourning over the loss of Johnny Cochran, Esq. - Heaven, or Hell, must be much more interesting now.

 

[asarjfo]

I didn't know that was you Fuzzo!

 

[MetroSheriff]

I didn't know that was you Fuzzo!

IFly,

I must also, despite the vast chasm that exist between our beliefs, must plead on behalf of InclusiveScope. We all know how he can be and I disagree with him VEHEMENTLY with his politics, convictions, solutions and all manner of things thereunto pertaining.

That said, FlightInfo is a better place with him than without him. At least he has something to say that pertains to our industry. Which is more than can be said for some of the turkeys on here that want to use the board for their bible thumping bully pulpit.

As one of the members that you know has been around since the beginning, and I mean the orignal beginning, cut him a break and let him come back if he plays nice.



JMHO