ASA - Upcoming Displacement - Idea

[SiuDude]

The vacancy bid is out allowing CAs to bid down. Let's see if anyone actually keeps their word.

 

[gator_hater]

The vacancy bid is out allowing CAs to bid down. Let's see if anyone actually keeps their word.

Bravo for the two sides coming to an agreement on this. It is how all displacements should be handled. We will see if these guys keep their word. A few might but I would bet most will not.

 

[SLUF4]

I guess a few people with a good idea actually can make something happen after all

 

[buscap]

Good luck getting ALPA to do anything at all..... ALPA local has become every bit as useless as national.
-Pathetic.

Have you checked your e-mail???

In my opinion, there will be few takers for the voluntary downgrade, but at least ALPA and the company came together on it.
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Darn those MEC guys being so unwilling to bend. Darn them!!!

 

[crj567]

Have you checked your e-mail???

In my opinion, there will be few takers for the voluntary downgrade, but at least ALPA and the company came together on it.
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Darn those MEC guys being so unwilling to bend. Darn them!!!

Yep-

I just read that. Very informative and well thought out.

 

[sunlitpath]

Yes, the company listened to its pilot group and responded in a favorable manner. They are to be commended for their responsiveness. ALPA was actually a very dull tool used in this process. Fortunately, the perseverence of a handful resulted in a fair resolution.

 

[WWEfan]

Yes, the company listened to its pilot group and responded in a favorable manner. They are to be commended for their responsiveness. ALPA was actually a very dull tool used in this process. Fortunately, the perseverence of a handful resulted in a fair resolution.

Actually, ALPA listened to its pilots and then worked with the Company to make it happen. But what do I know? I just sit behind this keyboard and spew misinformation

 

[Speedtape]

Yes, the company listened to its pilot group and responded in a favorable manner. They are to be commended for their responsiveness. ALPA was actually a very dull tool used in this process. Fortunately, the perseverence of a handful resulted in a fair resolution.

There is one thing that is very apparent--You don't have a clue. I can hardly wait until you blame ALPA because not enough Captains voluntarily bid down.

 

[twott driver]

Actually he does have a clue and was very involved in the whole process. You won't hear one word of complaint out of him regarding the number of capt's that bid down. The whole point of the arguement was to at least provide the option to do so.

Me to alpa, "let's get this done", alpa, "we have asked the company and they say no", me "well I just spoke to the company and they say they have no objections", alpa, "oh".......

Pretty much sums it up. ALPA and the company behaving like an estranged couple with the neglected children having to bring them to the table to get talking. Obviously didn't affect the Reps directly so they had no particular drive to pursue the matter as vigourously as was necessary. We managed to get it done.

 

[Snapperhead]

Good job to both sides on working this through.​

 

[sunlitpath]

There is one thing that is very apparent--You don't have a clue. I can hardly wait until you blame ALPA because not enough Captains voluntarily bid down.

I don't need clues when I possess facts. Now that this issue is resolved, let's get the company to include all the coma numbers in the displacement reduction. They have agreed to evaluate the long term COMAs (6 months or greater). The company has been extraordinarily responsive and open to suggestions. We need to have the monthly COMAs also included, based on a historical rolling average. For example, if the average number of captains who take coma per month is 10, then we should use this value. Add this number to long term COMA numbers and we may get a reduction of 15 to 20. That would be significant. Every 10 captains that are not displaced improve the schedules of all FOs below them, and also keep 10 captains from a reserve schedule. I have already submitted this concept to the MEC numerous times. They were largely apathetic in their reponse. However, this a wonderful opportunity for them to rectify their sluggish demeanor. As far as captains bidding to FO. CPO indicated to me 2 weeks ago that a few captains showed interest in bidding down to FO, for quality of life issues. It was explained to them that the contract did not permit it under the then current position notice. They may or may not take it , but at least they have a chance and right to do it now. No captain will be able to complain about this issue because it has finally been done correctly. Furthermore, any reserve captain who complains about his schedule will be muted, because he had his chance for a great schedule. Now let's stop bickering and get busy on this COMA issue...