ASA transferring Sims to SkyWest, furloughing IP's

["GO AROUND"]

Remember when FSI was doing the 120 training? That right there is reason enough to pay the instructors everything that they get. You farm training out to the lowest bidder you will have the same thing that we have on the ramp.

They are already farming out some of the Systems ground school to DGS pilots. I guess retired pilots. They were teaching ops, but they stopped cause of teaching issues.

 

[ASADriver]

Haven't most of the majors farmed out their ground school instructors?

 

[ReportCanoa]

Haven't most of the majors farmed out their ground school instructors?

Yes. But what is the going rate for a legacy airline ground instructor. Probly more than ours, hence the problems.

 

[JettBoii]

ASA will be Delta's bi@#h until that 20 yr contract is up. Period.

 

[ASADriver]

Yes. But what is the going rate for a legacy airline ground instructor. Probly more than ours, hence the problems.

I don't care. When I went thru RJ training, most of it was in front of a computer and the ASA instructor said he was just a "facilitator". If we can save money on "facilitators" who oversee computer based ground training, I don't really care.

 

[jehtplane]

I don't care. When I went thru RJ training, most of it was in front of a computer and the ASA instructor said he was just a "facilitator". If we can save money on "facilitators" who oversee computer based ground training, I don't really care.

And I suppose he or she did not answer any of your questions or help you in any way because you were such an RJ expert. The guys and gals in the training dept work very hard to make it the best there is, I would know, they are top notch. That is how it starts farm out the instructors, didn't they do that with flying at some airlines? hmmm.

 

[ASADriver]

And I suppose he or she did not answer any of your questions or help you in any way because you were such an RJ expert. The guys and gals in the training dept work very hard to make it the best there is, I would know, they are top notch. That is how it starts farm out the instructors, didn't they do that with flying at some airlines? hmmm.

Actually, he wasn't much help. That being said, we do have some great instructors, and we have some tools. Some are great, and some want to try and impress me with how much they know. We have both kinds here at ASA. Most of the majors farm out the ground schools and they do just fine, I suspect we would do just fine also. The fact is, this offer isn't what I want either, but I do understand the realities of the industry. If I am willing to suck it up, I expect the instructors to also. If it is so bad, they can always come back to the line.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Actually, he wasn't much help. That being said, we do have some great instructors, and we have some tools. Some are great, and some want to try and impress me with how much they know. We have both kinds here at ASA. Most of the majors farm out the ground schools and they do just fine, I suspect we would do just fine also. The fact is, this offer isn't what I want either, but I do understand the realities of the industry. If I am willing to suck it up, I expect the instructors to also. If it is so bad, they can always come back to the line.

I think we should farm out the CRJ engineering department too. Or the program manager. Many airlines do it just fine, right Biscuit? You can just come back to the line...

 

[ArcticFlier]

Keep blaming all your problems on the DL mec. If it makes you feel better, then so be it. Your group of DUI's and college dropouts makes me laugh! Your constant pointing of the finger gets old and tiresome! Maybe you should look in the mirror! Your true enemy is management. But if blaming the evil DL mainline pilots makes you feel better, have at it sport!
737

I'm just curious..........what does having a DUI in your past....oh say at the age of 19.................have to do with your ability and professionalism as a regional pilot, with well over 16000 hours of flight experience at the age of ................oh........say 40?

Tool...........



AF

 

[ASARJMan]

I think we should farm out the CRJ engineering department too. Or the program manager. Many airlines do it just fine, right Biscuit? You can just come back to the line...

Can't, cockpit tooooo small for The Biscuit! The guy has been on a deal for years here. Back to the line with him!

VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[ASARJMan]

ASA will be Delta's bi@#h until that 20 yr contract is up. Period.

ASA has always been Delta's beetch! Always will too!

VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[jehtplane]

Can't, cockpit tooooo small for The Biscuit! The guy has been on a deal for years here. Back to the line with him!

VOTED IN FAVOR!

I am certainly not in favor of management, or some of the departments, but WD is actually a nice guy, never had a problem with him. That being said stand firm, don't put up with the bs, definitely proud to have been apart of the pilot group for contract 98 and most of contract 2002!

 

[737 Pylt]

I'm just curious..........what does having a DUI in your past....oh say at the age of 19.................have to do with your ability and professionalism as a regional pilot, with well over 16000 hours of flight experience at the age of ................oh........say 40?

Tool...........



AF

Oh, so you're the other one? I was wondering who it was!
LOSER!
737

 

[CFIT]

Oh, so you're the other one? I was wondering who it was!
LOSER!
737

Do your instructors give you specific training on not shutting down both motors climbing out of LAX, nearly ditching into the pacific, get a relight, and then continue to CVG as if nothing happened. Ya, you guys are the best.

BTW, good friends with a couple of current DAL pilots, both with DUI's, one only has a high school diploma. Both good pilots, can't say the same for you.

 

[737 Pylt]

Do your instructors give you specific training on not shutting down both motors climbing out of LAX, nearly ditching into the pacific, get a relight, and then continue to CVG as if nothing happened. Ya, you guys are the best.

You worry about turns around a point spartky, the only jet engine you'll ever see is when you walk by it servicing the lav!

BTW, good friends with a couple of current DAL pilots, both with DUI's, one only has a high school diploma. Both good pilots, can't say the same for you.

That's a lie on 2 accounts, everyone knows a POS like you has no friends!
737

 

[ArcticFlier]

Oh, so you're the other one? I was wondering who it was!
LOSER!
737

Are you indicative of the professionalism over at DAL in the right seat? I hope not, but hey, what do I know?


BTW...........I never said I had a DUI in my past. You assumed that, and we all know what happens with assumptions. It makes an a$$ out of those that do it.


AF

 

[737 Pylt]

Are you indicative of the professionalism over at DAL in the right seat? I hope not, but hey, what do I know?

Obviously not much!

BTW...........I never said I had a DUI in my past. You assumed that, and we all know what happens with assumptions. It makes an a$$ out of those that do it.


AF

I never assumed anything sport. Just pointing out the obvious!
737

 

[ArcticFlier]

Obviously not much!



I never assumed anything sport. Just pointing out the obvious!
737

Oh, humour me some more..................Can't answer the question about your professionalism, can you?

Obvious? Really? You know something about my driving record that I don't? Keep assuming. It's illustrative of your intelligence. Somewhere below the GED level.



AF

 

[737 Pylt]

Deleted.....Not worth it!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Oh, so you're the other one? I was wondering who it was!
LOSER!
737

Wadda $hitstain, you are the loser!
{BR

 

[737 Pylt]

Wadda $hitstain, you are the loser!
{BR

Another internet toughguy! YAWN!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Another internet toughguy! YAWN!

Oh by the way is that a peanut stuck between your teeth(gap from missing tooth), or is it corn? Now go back to your executive membership level access to the N.A.M.B.L.A. website, and stimulate yourself!
PBR
P.S. Don't need to be tough when you can hide behind a screen name.

 

[737 Pylt]

Oh by the way is that a peanut stuck between your teeth(gap from missing tooth), or is it corn? Now go back to your executive membership level access to the N.A.M.B.L.A. website, and stimulate yourself!
PBR

I'm not quite sure what it is. I ate at your house last night!
You seem to know alot about "self stimulation."

P.S. Don't need to be tough when you can hide behind a screen name.

like I said before, another computer keyboard tough guy!
YAWN!
737

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I'm not quite sure what it is. I ate at your house last night!
You seem to know alot about "self stimulation."


like I said before, another computer keyboard tough guy!
YAWN!
737

I keep putting the lid down to keep the dog out of the toilet, he doesn't have opposable thumbs, but you do and now I am gonna have to keep the lid locked some how. "self stimulation", yeah, yeah so what?
Like I said before, I dont' have to be tough while hiding behind a screen name.
Now back to the N.A.M.B.L.A. website where you belong...
PBR

 

[737 Pylt]

I keep putting the lid down to keep the dog out of the toilet, he doesn't have opposable thumbs, but you do and now I am gonna have to keep the lid locked some how. "self stimulation", yeah, yeah so what?
Like I said before, I dont' have to be tough while hiding behind a screen name.

Yet you continue to do so!

Now back to the N.A.M.B.L.A. website where you belong...
PBR

You need to take down the pictures of your family, the're old!
later loser!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Yet you continue to do so!

You need to take down the pictures of your family, the're old!
later loser!

Uh Huh, still hiding behind my screen name, ain't gonna stop.

My family pictures will stay right where they are, and you will continue to frequent the N.A.M.B.L.A. website, with the usual frequency and enthusiam that you have always have had. Now go back to your parents basement and do what ever it is you do.
PBR

 

[IFLYASA]

We need to work on getting the 30 day cooling off period. The future points toward all 70's going to Skywest, and ASA having all 50's and ATR's. We need to act now and get the ball rolling. Management is purposely stalling so their slow whipsaw comes into effect.

 

[ASADriver]

We need to work on getting the 30 day cooling off period. The future points toward all 70's going to Skywest, and ASA having all 50's and ATR's. We need to act now and get the ball rolling. Management is purposely stalling so their slow whipsaw comes into effect.

Isn't that what ALPA is doing? Didn't we just vote to stike? Are you implying that ALPA isn't working on getting a cooling off period? Why did we vote then?

 

[ASARJMan]

Isn't that what ALPA is doing? Didn't we just vote to stike? Are you implying that ALPA isn't working on getting a cooling off period? Why did we vote then?

If you don't know why the vote was taken, then you're very ignorant if you're an ASA ALPA pilot, or some management puke stirring it up. You figure it out Biscuit, whoever you are.

VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[ASADriver]

If you don't know why the vote was taken, then you're very ignorant if you're an ASA ALPA pilot, or some management puke stirring it up. You figure it out Biscuit, whoever you are.

VOTED IN FAVOR!

I was told that the strike was needed to get a cooling off period. I was also told that it didn't really mean we would strike. I was told it was to send a message to management. Which is true? Wasn't the strike vote so we could get a cooling off period? It wasn't a bluff was it?