ASA to displace again...

[zawillif]

I've moved up 5 this month and 5 last month. I've heard several people behind me leaving as well. Apparently its not enough.

 

[maxcackel]

Here we go again... According to CT, due to the loss of 6 airframes, we'll see a displacement bid in the next week or so. CRJ Reserve Captains have been worked to death all year and you would think this loss of planes would actually bring us closer to being properly staffed. Nope, wouldn't want our reserves sitting at home being used like they're supposed to, to cover sick calls and IROPS, so lets send 'em back to the right seat just before we lose a boatload of Captains when the hiring gets going in the coming months.

Here's what I can't wait for and I look forward to pointing back to this post at some time in the future...

ASA will go into a complete meltdown when pilots begin leaving in droves. Management will claim they didn't see it coming even though a complete idiot can see what's about to happen. They'll be plenty of 200% pay to pick up open time as they scramble to deal with the mess and massive numbers of flights will be cancelled due to lack of crews. But as always, while they're bending us over to cover their incompetence, there will always be the TFAYD memos to inspire us onward, even though we haven't seen our families for weeks.

Sorry for the rant but this stuff is starting to get old.

(And don't you worry Joe, before you say what you always say, I'll be happy to leave at the earliest possible opportunity to leave you to serve out your life sentence at a regional since you couldn't make the cut at a major.)

I highlighted the problem I see, just "Starting" to get old? You guys should be way past "starting".

 

[Clutch]

I'm not sure where they are going but we have LOTS of people leaving.

Atlas

 

[Abernathy]

(And don't you worry Joe, before you say what you always say, I'll be happy to leave at the earliest possible opportunity to leave you to serve out your life sentence at a regional since you couldn't make the cut at a major.)

We have a lot of people here who have been here for 20+ years because this was, at some point, a place where with some seniority, you could hold great schedules and still do well financially. Most guys I fly with that are over 10 years of seniority lament that despite all the poor leadership from the GO in the past couple decades, they were still working 3on-4off, having never touched 4 day trips.

I now routinely fly with people over 15 years of seniority (usually more) who are working 4 day trips and still don't have full weekends off. More significantly, many of these people are now considering moving onto other carriers because staying here, although once a seemingly good prospect, doesn't make sense anymore.

Guys like Joe are lucky because guys like Joe came here early enough and have spent most of their career being senior, and currently are among the only guys who can hold what's remaining of the good trips. But even then, to do so, he's got to be on the 50 seater flying 5-6 legs a day and spending 9 hour layovers in MS and AL.

Either way, this company is going to bleed next year and no one is going to stay that can move on, because this management group hasn't given us a reason to.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Either way, this company is going to bleed next year and no one is going to stay that can move on, because this management group hasn't given us a reason to.

I think that's part of the point. Lowering the average longevity of the company is a cost savings measure. The company is entirely run by the bean counters. I truly don't think that the company wants it's employees to stay here, they would rather have it being a revolving door. It's sad that they don't want to retain hard working professionals, but it's hard to put that on an Excel spreadsheet I guess.

It's not the end of the tunnel though, that's the headlight of the train headed our way. Or maybe this doom and gloom is a tactic in contract negotiations.

 

[On Your Six]

I don't think you'll see DAL hire next year. Maybe more like Autumn 2013.

That may not be true. Rumor has it there may be additional early out offers to the senior guys to mitigate the eventual huge amount leaving all at once. They know the numbers, and they also have been hugely profitable this year and last, making $952 million last year in bag fees alone. They had 168 guys leave the last time, and that generates a lot of training, and another one of those could initiate some hiring, maybe in the fall next year.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[OARfan]

Why the hell would anyone be a street captain at Gojets when all you need to be is an rj FO? Delta doesn't give a flying F... if you've been captain or not.

 

[zawillif]

Why the hell would anyone be a street captain at Gojets when all you need to be is an rj FO? Delta doesn't give a flying F... if you've been captain or not.

If I could live in base I wouldn't think twice.

 

[centralpilot]

Why the hell would anyone be a street captain at Gojets when all you need to be is an rj FO? Delta doesn't give a flying F... if you've been captain or not.

It may not be a published minimum, but TPIC is certainly still a competitive requirement for MOST Delta applicants. What if you don't want to work for Delta? TPIC and an ATP certificate are minimums for nearly everyone. What if Delta hires, then furloughs you? Where can you go then without those resume bullet-points? Everyone says the majors will soon be so desperate that it won't matter, but we are not nearly there yet. Is it really that hard to see why street captain could be tempting?

 

[drinksonme]

I just read CT's update, and while it did say displacements, it did not say DOWNGRADES or FURLOUGHS. When I got DOWNGRADED from CA to FO at XJT some years back, there was a lot more info than a 4 sentance paragraph. Hold tight and see how it plays out. A base displacement could occur do to a reduction in 700 flying in certain cities. I truely hope for all our ASA commrades that a major staffing change is not is store. I do know that CT did mention POSSIBLY moving the XJT FO's, currently ASA FO's who accept recall to ASA as part of the merger, back to XJT. I am not saying it will happen, but before everyone goes off all half-cocked, do not jump to conclusions about the word "displacements". He even mentioned vacancies in IAD. If they furlough/downgrade, it would be absolute shame. XJT is still hiring, so I am sure furloughs would be given spots at XJT as long as we continue to do so. CA downgrades would be in a much worse spot, and after going through it myself already, it sucks.

 

[JettBoii]

You won't have to be female or black or both.

 

[Jags1]

I just read CT's update, and while it did say displacements, it did not say DOWNGRADES or FURLOUGHS. When I got DOWNGRADED from CA to FO at XJT some years back, there was a lot more info than a 4 sentance paragraph. Hold tight and see how it plays out. A base displacement could occur do to a reduction in 700 flying in certain cities. I truely hope for all our ASA commrades that a major staffing change is not is store. I do know that CT did mention POSSIBLY moving the XJT FO's, currently ASA FO's who accept recall to ASA as part of the merger, back to XJT. I am not saying it will happen, but before everyone goes off all half-cocked, do not jump to conclusions about the word "displacements". He even mentioned vacancies in IAD. If they furlough/downgrade, it would be absolute shame. XJT is still hiring, so I am sure furloughs would be given spots at XJT as long as we continue to do so. CA downgrades would be in a much worse spot, and after going through it myself already, it sucks.

That's also the way I read it too. Displacement. Not downgrades. The part about IAD having vacancies leads me to believe the displacement will be ATL CRJ. He did make a very general and basic statement though so who knows.

 

[centralpilot]

That's also the way I read it too. Displacement. Not downgrades.

Wow. It must be nice to have that much optimism still. Enjoy it for another day or two I guess.

 

[Varmint]

Delta's merry-go-round with the Delta Connection carriers. Your displacements on the other side of the coin means direct entry Captain openings at GoJets. Anybody under 40 who thinks staying at a Delta Connection carrier is a stable long-term career needs to get their head checked.

EK....new roadshows in OCT in the USA.

www.ekpilot.com

If you are interested I would recommend going even if you don't have over 30 ton time. At least there will be a paper trail of your interest if you show up at the roadshows.

 

[Flyer1015]

EK....new roadshows in OCT in the USA.

www.ekpilot.com

If you are interested I would recommend going even if you don't have over 30 ton time. At least there will be a paper trail of your interest if you show up at the roadshows.

I already been this year. 30 ton rule still in effect.