ASA scheduling cost savings

[crj567]

I've asked the powers-that-be why they don't pay the schedulers more to keep them around longer, let them learn the rules. A scheduler that knows the duty-rigs and actually has an aptitude for resource managment (Wayne!) could save the company tens of thousands of dollars a year in cancelled flights alone, never mind the savings in reduced crew utilization etc. Obviously, a pencil-necked geek has run the numbers without factoring in all of the variables, and this is what we get. I guess in the Delta rate reset, less importance is placed on D0, A-14 etc cause those numbers are out the window and nary a word or a 'Thanks for all you do'. Some days I wonder...

Ditto-

A great way to save many millions would be to retain a few scheduling folks who really have a clue. Seems to be, this problem is common to all airlines. A scheduler who really knows what he or she is doing is worth at least as much as a good dispatcher, and should be compensated accordingly.

 

[Max Q]

Ok. I see. That's pretty nice that you regularly only have to work 64 hours and get paid the extra 11 hours, though at XJT you get add-pay for any pickups so if you are below MMG you still get full pay for any pickups.

No, it is not nice to work the same number of days and earn 20 hours less pay.

 

[79%N1]

No, it is not nice to work the same number of days and earn 20 hours less pay.

Exactly!!!

Last month- four 4 days worth 88 hrs. This month, four 4 days worth 67 hrs. Same days worked, large paycut! Enough said. Now......three 4 days woth 67 hrs and we're talking!

 

[Max Q]

How about 5 four days at 77 hours?

 

[altimaklr]

Even on the old Pinnacle contract, any open-time pickup is paid above gaurentee

 

[COOPERVANE]

It is past time to sharpen the pitchforks. I'm at 101 hours on reserve.

 

[crj567]

No, it is not nice to work the same number of days and earn 20 hours less pay.

Yep-

And PBS was "just a different way of bidding." Vast QOL improvements abound!


-Remember that load?

(Of course, once block hours go up in the summer, we will get to explore the other end of this "just another way of bidding" spectrum.) Sometimes folks just have to let a snake bite them in the ass before they really understand how it could turn out badly.

 

[johnpeace]

So...if you only have a 67 hr line...why would you ever accept/tolerate being extended? The first 8 hrs of extensions will be for free.

Who would do that?

 

[crj567]

So...if you only have a 67 hr line...why would you ever accept/tolerate being extended? The first 8 hrs of extensions will be for free.

Who would do that?

Get ready to be "enhanced!"

 

[twott driver]

The only way to not tolerate being extended is fatigue or sickness. Jnr manning, just don't answer your phone.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Are those unproductive pairings as a result of PBS? or were they always like that?

I'm not with ASA, but for perspective, PBS does not generate pairings. PBS is simply a tool to award pre-built pairings to pilots.

If you have crappy pairings, it's because your pairing generation process sucks, not because you have Hardline bidding or PBS.

 

[johnpeace]

The only way to not tolerate being extended is fatigue or sickness. Jnr manning, just don't answer your phone.

I don't know that I agree with that. If, as a result of your crap schedule, you're below guarantee and won't get the premium pay for the extension...then the extension is illegal and not contractual.

I know without perfect clarity and the assurance that I AM going to credit 150% for the extension, I wouldn't accept it.

To do so would be insane.

At that point, we'd be working 4 5-day trips a month for MMG. There's no way I'm doing that!

 

[79%N1]

I don't know that I agree with that. If, as a result of your crap schedule, you're below guarantee and won't get the premium pay for the extension...then the extension is illegal and not contractual.

I know without perfect clarity and the assurance that I AM going to credit 150% for the extension, I wouldn't accept it.

To do so would be insane.

At that point, we'd be working 4 5-day trips a month for MMG. There's no way I'm doing that!

And how would you explain it to the chief pilot to get out of flying the extension?

 

[johnpeace]

And how would you explain it to the chief pilot to get out of flying the extension?

The contract says if I do this, I get 150% pay...but they aren't paying me 150%...so I'm not doing it.

That's how.

You want me to accept assignments? Great, make the assignments within the bounds of the contract.

 

[Max Q]

Especially after 3 legs and 18 hours of rest.