ASA Reserves

[Baronman]

Any days off moved need be be compensated, not just replaced. Automatic min day + credit earned on said day. If under 75 this needs to go on top of guarantee...AND an RDO. Having days off moved last minute is a HUGE inconvenience. Why do we get nothing for it?????

At XJT you get min day credit (or value of that days flying if over 3.75) x 150%, as well as your day restored. It is "add pay" and credited on top of your 75 hours.

At ASA/XJT we should expect nothing less than this, currently they're paying 200%, which IMO is what it should be.

 

[whatitdoing?]

ALPA blows. Nothing will get done. They'll just take your money, promise things and nothing will happen. Pilot negotiators......now that makes sense.

 

[No Delay]

what are you talking about?????


ALPA has the best pizza around!

 

[n8avi8]

no more than 3 conversions from long call to short call (or maybe we put a quarterly limit in so they don't run it up to the limit for no reason every month). Conversions from long call to short call need to come with credit. It's long call for a reason and if they want to change it pay us the same you do a RR.

Also, quit calling at 12:01 AM! They obviously have the schedule figured out before then. It is driving me crazy. Also, why can't we have 8 hours to respond if on long call like many airlines? I am about ready to try short call again...

 

[cfi on the fly]

ALPA blows. Nothing will get done. They'll just take your money, promise things and nothing will happen. Pilot negotiators......now that makes sense.

That's what I have never understood. We are trained as pilots...yet we elect from our own to go up against "professional " negotiaters who do this day in day out. Some of us may have some law degrees and interesting majors...but who are we kidding? We became pilots to fly airplanes ..so why isn't our alpa money used to hire people to represent us that do this for a living.

 

[Data]

One simple fix, just remove the automatic deduction of ALPA dues from your paycheck, they'll spend more time chasing you for your dues and will have less time to fu<k everything else up, problem solved! In fact, that would solve many of our society's problems, no more automatic deduction of taxes. Once folks really see how much they have to give the government each money, they'll get involved.

 

[johnpeace]

Are the rest of you absolutely PELTING them with your demands and expectations for the next contract or just grousing about it on an internet forum?

 

[nerjdriver]

I think the best improvement the reserves will see is an upgrade to XJT reserve rules. Other than that it makes little sense to waste neg. capital on reserve rules especially to the detriment of line holders. Regional shortage is well on the way anyway and age 65 is almost up so pilots in the near future will be spending minimal time on reserve

riiiiiigggggghhhhhttttt........... I hope you sit reserve for more than 3 years like alot of us at some point in time. Hopefully its at a company with sh!tty reserve rules. You deserve it after that ignorant post.

moron

 

[Medeco]

Good news for all you who thought it was a great idea to have the most hated pilot at ASA on the merger committee. He just told me the other day that he has already gone to CT and told him that the Expressjet pilots were asking for too much!!! Way to split ranks already. This is not a reserve problem at ASA it is an attitude that employees and their families don't mean anything. That needs to be addressed for line pilots and reserves both. It needs to be addressed in the JCBA and we need to stick together, both groups!!!

Assuming, I know who you are speaking of, this guy is only on the SLI group????????

 

[No Delay]

why does one improvement have to be at the detriment of another????

why not just try to make things better for all groups / areas?


9 years at asa....I don't think we have ever had the opportunity we have now to improve our contract. Please alpa, don't blow it.

 

[Flybywire44]

The largest majority in our pilot group are the reserves or those who will be on reserve again.

PM me if your interested in seeing reserve life improve at ASA.

 

[dojetdriver]

Any days off moved need be be compensated, not just replaced. Automatic min day + credit earned on said day. If under 75 this needs to go on top of guarantee...AND an RDO. Having days off moved last minute is a HUGE inconvenience. Why do we get nothing for it?????

At XJT you get min day credit (or value of that days flying if over 3.75) x 150%, as well as your day restored. It is "add pay" and credited on top of your 75 hours.

At ASA/XJT we should expect nothing less than this, currently they're paying 200%, which IMO is what it should be.

And if you read the new MOU, if a reserve has a day off rolled and it's not restorable, it's 10 hours add pay PLUS and added vacation day the following year. I talked to a reserve CA in ORD that it happened to 3 times this month. 105 hours (or more, not sure what they were sitting at) + 3 additional vacation days.

However, in my little world, MOU 22 could have simply said this;

"Reserve pilots will have 13 days off in a 30 day bid period, and 14 days off in a 31 day bid period. A reserve pilot will NEVER be awarded a reserve line that has less than 3 consecutive days free of duty anywhere in the bid period." and just kept the current pay/day off restoration language.

 

[Dannone]

We need to get one thing straight. This is not a reserve problem, though I totally agree the reserves at ASA anyway, have been treated horribly. The company doesn't treat line holders any better. As a matter of fact in March everyone has been on reserve. I am in the middle of 10 out of 11 days with an extension in between!! I am not near being on reserve. Point being we cannot make this a reserve v line holder or ASA v Expressjet issue. That is playing right into their hands. It must be both groups all together to improve our lives using the opportunity we have with this merger. Either the company shares the merger benefits or none of us get any. That simple, because status quo is not even close to acceptable.

 

[johnpeace]

That is true, it's not a 'reserve problem' so much as it is a systemic failure of the crew planning/utilization/scheduling management.

The reserves bear the brunt of it, as there's practically zero protections for the most grievous abuses of the failures in those departments. Look at all the protections lineholders have (150% for extensions, credit/pay protected within footprint, ability to swap/drop/pick-up)...we have none of that.

All of the chaos and stupidity, none of the flexibility and freedom.

I want our next contract to make it impossibly expensive for the company to continue to use morons to allocate crews. I want to force them into approaching the crew utilization problem with competence and intelligence and go on a massive housecleaning spree over there.

Stronger, less flexible (for them) reserve language is an important part of that overall strategy.

 

[Redan]

That is true, it's not a 'reserve problem' so much as it is a systemic failure of the crew planning/utilization/scheduling management.

The reserves bear the brunt of it, as there's practically zero protections for the most grievous abuses of the failures in those departments. Look at all the protections lineholders have (150% for extensions, credit/pay protected within footprint, ability to swap/drop/pick-up)...we have none of that.

All of the chaos and stupidity, none of the flexibility and freedom.

I want our next contract to make it impossibly expensive for the company to continue to use morons to allocate crews. I want to force them into approaching the crew utilization problem with competence and intelligence and go on a massive housecleaning spree over there.

Stronger, less flexible (for them) reserve language is an important part of that overall strategy.

Agreed! Again, this is where PAY PROTECTION for RESERVES comes into play. The first step for systemic reform as this would remove reserves as the catch all option.

I agree with everything you say and will add that our union's perspectives from the dark ages tend to prop up company's ineptitude. Union's current focus on growth/competitiveness makes the pilot group a prime target for cost savings (for example: we get an MOU out of nowhere allowing ACARS extensions). That in turn props up the inept crew utilization making ACARS an element of the scheduling model as we've all seen here in March. This all assumes acceptance of the premise that pilot costs are a primary factor in the competitiveness of the airline thus playing right into management's hand.

 

[701EV]

What MOU states ACARS is official notification from scheduling?

 

[Abernathy]

What MOU states ACARS is official notification from scheduling?

MOU16.

http://flightops.asacontract.com/assets/Uploads/MOU16-Sections-13V-13W.pdf

Our MEC Chairman signed the MOU himself. I wonder what kind of favors he got in return for selling out the pilot group again.

Throw them out.

 

[johnpeace]

You ACK that?!

 

[ASA Captain]

The one that really applies to the ACARS is in your FOM. You are required to respond (when safe) to an ACARS, including scheduling notifications.

And they can track that the aircraft received the message.

Sucks, but it is in the FOM.

 

[Nevets]

No calling after a trip. Check sked plus and go home. Can't be put on RR on the pm shift before days off and no more than 3 conversions from long call to short call (or maybe we put a quarterly limit in so they don't run it up to the limit for no reason every month).

We have that at XJT already. I don't remember the conversion limitation part though.

That's what I have never understood. We are trained as pilots...yet we elect from our own to go up against "professional " negotiaters who do this day in day out. Some of us may have some law degrees and interesting majors...but who are we kidding? We became pilots to fly airplanes ..so why isn't our alpa money used to hire people to represent us that do this for a living.

ALPA does use professional negotiators.

In fact, that would solve many of our society's problems, no more automatic deduction of taxes. Once folks really see how much they have to give the government each money, they'll get involved.

FairTax would solve that!

Union's current focus on growth/competitiveness makes the pilot group a prime target for cost savings (for example: we get an MOU out of nowhere allowing ACARS extensions).

At XJT they can only reassign if a crew scheduler, crew tracker, or chief pilot meets you at the aircraft to notify you.