ASA messed up the schedules again!

[Airboss]

Final Schedules are out and they got messed up. Reserve pilots got changed to long call even when they did not request it, and converted lines had holes in it like swiss cheese.

 

[79%N1]

How do you know if you are long call, short call, or ready reserve?? My schedule just says RS12. None of the codes that are listed in ourasa are on my schedule.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

How do you know if you are long call, short call, or ready reserve?? My schedule just says RS12. None of the codes that are listed in ourasa are on my schedule.

That means you're short call for the month (and they can call you to convert to ready reserve). If you are long call you'd get a 24hr reserve period or something. I havent looked into it yet really, guess I better!!

 

[maxcackel]

Conversion lines were awarded to people with the same reserve line, ie same golden days. It is out of senority, is that correct? Or is it by coverage for the company.

 

[rightseatjocky]

My reserve says rs18. I know it means 1800. I guess they can assign you what they want. I put in for 0700. bastids

 

[Beergut]

Since you work at ASA you should already expect some glitches with implementation of the new contract. It is to be expected.:nuts:

 

[jeroom]

What's IAW means on the final?

 

[Medeco]

In accordance with

Medeco

 

[TOOL CRIB]

What's IAW means on the final?

I'm guessing Initial AWard

 

[BIGGOAT]

People junior to me got LCRS or long call res and I requested it. Only one capt. senior to me had the same res line that I have and he was converted to a hard line. My line of reasoning is a + b=...I should get long call.

 

[FishandFly]

I hate to admit it but I am at the bottom and got converted to a line ....

17 days off

 

[OCP]

How can you even see if people junior got something you didn't?

 

[FL990]

Apparently, there were very junior reserve captains that got converted to hard lines and very senior captains (on reserve) that requested it but did not. The contract state in Sec 13.G.7.a, that it shall be done based on seniority. Also, there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to how they awarded long call reserve.

I am told that ALPA and the company are aware of the issue and that they are looking into it to see what happened. Sooo, I guess we'll see?!?!

 

[FishandFly]

I figured there was some mistake.. I can't remember for sure, but weren't we able to view every one's lines in the past? I think via an email.

 

[sweptback]

On Flica, go to Schedule Lookup (towards the bottom).

Don't know what the equivalent way to do that is on etrip.

 

[maxcackel]

If it is wrong are they going to change it? Can they change it after the finals are out?

 

[V1 Rotate]

How do you know if you are long call, short call, or ready reserve?? My schedule just says RS12. None of the codes that are listed in ourasa are on my schedule.

Why don't you just pay more attention to things!?!? Maybe in the future you won't have to ask these kind of questions!! LOL PM me.

 

[79%N1]

If it is wrong are they going to change it? Can they change it after the finals are out?

WeI've called the Union, Crew Planning, and scheduling......with no answers!

So far, I count 22 junior to me with a converted line.

Of course, who knows how many senior to me bid one and didn't get one either!

 

[rightseatjocky]

Those P stains at scheduling would screw up a wet dream.

 

[Long Time Gone]

It's odd, though, that no "official" Final Schedule has yet to be posted on ourasa.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Odd? Isn't ASA odd? wait we all knew that

 

[BIGGOAT]

They probably din't post an official "Final Schedule" b/c they are trying to contain the damage. My issue is with long call res, there are juniors to me who got it. The new contract states that it will be awarded in seniority order.

Goat

 

[OCP]

WeI've called the Union, Crew Planning, and scheduling......with no answers!

So far, I count 22 junior to me with a converted line.

Of course, who knows how many senior to me bid one and didn't get one either!

Ok I'm still not seeing it... Where can you look to see how much you've been screwed by the new system?

 

[79%N1]

Ok, go on flica.
Click Information and tools at the bottom
It will open up a dropdown that has schedules lookup.
Then you have to just type in a name and their schedule will open up.
I just open another window, and open the awards page so I can see who was awarded reserve lines, then type in the name on the schedule lookup.


Yes, I know I have waaay too much free time, but thats what happens when you have worked three days all month. I have nothing but time!

 

[shamrock]

Ok, go on flica.
Click Information and tools at the bottom
It will open up a dropdown that has schedules lookup.
Then you have to just type in a name and their schedule will open up.
I just open another window, and open the awards page so I can see who was awarded reserve lines, then type in the name on the schedule lookup.


Yes, I know I have waaay too much free time, but thats what happens when you have worked three days all month. I have nothing but time!

You may have a lot of free time, but you also work at ASA and therefore are used to doing in-depth research to verify exactly how (not if) the company has screwed you and/or screwed up.

 

[OCP]

Ok, go on flica.
Click Information and tools at the bottom
It will open up a dropdown that has schedules lookup.
Then you have to just type in a name and their schedule will open up.
I just open another window, and open the awards page so I can see who was awarded reserve lines, then type in the name on the schedule lookup.


Yes, I know I have waaay too much free time, but thats what happens when you have worked three days all month. I have nothing but time!

Thanks... That's what I ended up doing, just thought there was an easier way. When you talked to the union did they say they were going to look into it?

 

[79%N1]

Nothing will be done about this! I suppose it is too late. What a complete violation of seniority. Why bother having seniority or a contract. This issue is the BIGGEST single factor affecting QOL at an airline. Reserves have No chance to swap or pick up open time.

Anyway, I talked to crew planning, and they are blaming scheduling. Figures!

 

[shamrock]

Anyway, I talked to crew planning, and they are blaming scheduling. Figures!

Now that's the ASA way, pass the buck. Just a variation of the "that's not my zone" argument/excuse we used to hear from the rampers.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Easy fix. Everybody gets either a converted line or long call. No short call reserves for the month of Feb.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Easy fix. Everybody gets either a converted line or long call. No short call reserves for the month of Feb.

Or as in the past, everybody gets a $5 Wendy's gift certificate.