ASA merger Rumor?

[LazyLightnin']

Word on the street is that Mesa sucks. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[JumpersAway]

Word on the street is that Mesa sucks. Can anyone confirm this?

Confirmed and verified to be true- Mesa does, indeed, suck!

Something tells me that the rebranding may be a lead up to some at risk flying or code shares with DAL. Let's face it, although minor, it may be just enough to get away from the catastrophy of a past we've lead, due to complete lack of direction and competant oversight on behalf of our prior management teams. Frankly, though subtle, it may be enough to "buff the turd". Let's be honest, it's our name that haunts our progress- we all know what we've done here and how much better our performance is, as opposed to years past.

Atlantic Southeast AIRLINES seems to be USA Today's favorite whipping child, perhaps the renaming of Atlantic Southeast will help disuade this for some "at risk flying". Yes, it's simple, maybe even dumb, but it just might be cheeply effective. I guess we'll see though, won't we...................

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Those numbers are for 65.

That CPS flow is going to start bringing pilots in very shortly. They will be flowing for a good bit before one off the street hire gets a class. (That is the plan to date, so it can change) That said, you will see Mesaba and CPS flows this year with off the street after that.

65 MD-90's It will be an overall net gain. 9's and older 88's will be parked as they come up for heavy checks.

Look for another order in 18-36 months. We may also be looking at new to us jets.

I would say that getting the CPS flow deal for you would be good since it will be only one way for the foreseeable future. I am not a fan of flows, but these pilots come to DAL off probation, no interview other than the NWA now DAL interview they will do to get hired at CPS.

Time will tell, but DAL seems to be intent on using the flow agreements to staff the near term staffing needs.

Don't think so. I bet 200 or so hired, but only 29 of them will be "flow."

 

[SLUF4]

I have some ideas and I've heard some stuff but it seems pretty far fetched

 

[CaribPilot]

here is the new combine retirement list as of may 1st. posted on delta net

2010 -3
11 - 8
12 - 19
13 - 102
14 - 162
15 - 224
16 - 301
17 - 360
18 - 456
19 - 538
20 - 624
21 - 807
22 - 860
23 - 812
24 - 810
25 - 714
26 - 618

Continued decrease from there

Same numbers I posted.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Don't think so. I bet 200 or so hired, but only 29 of them will be "flow."

You may only see 200 after the by-pass guys come back. I have heard up to 154 have indicated, but that was a few years ago. They will send out letters again asking for intent.

As for 29 flows, not what they have stated, but anything is possible. Flowing pilots allows them not to ramp up the hiring process and spend money they may not need to.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

You may only see 200 after the by-pass guys come back. I have heard up to 154 have indicated, but that was a few years ago. They will send out letters again asking for intent.

As for 29 flows, not what they have stated, but anything is possible. Flowing pilots allows them not to ramp up the hiring process and spend money they may not need to.

All fine, except that the don't like the flow because it doesn't allow them to select their pilots using their robust selection process. It doesn't really matter. We will all find out at the same time what they decide to do.

 

[ASA Captain]

New Domicile???

 

[Metro752]

Saigon.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

ASA; It is their decision. The flow came with the merger. In the end it is what it is.

 

[outtahere]

You want Compass to get E195s? What are you, nuts? I want out of the regionals to a better life. You sound like you are a loser with no college degree who knows he can't get better. I can't wait to leave guys like you in the dust! Adios LLLLLLOOOOOOSER!

With that kind of attitude, you are a shoe-in for Delta!!! A$$hole.

 

[wms]

If they do pick up another airline, I see them operating it seperately just like they do with ASA and SKYW.

 

[CX880]

Will they finally use the CRJ200s to fly for Fedex?

 

[CX880]

You want Compass to get E195s? What are you, nuts? I want out of the regionals to a better life. You sound like you are a loser with no college degree who knows he can't get better. I can't wait to leave guys like you in the dust! Adios LLLLLLOOOOOOSER!

I completely agree. It's just sad that regionals pilots have become so desperate that even the possibility of flying 100 seat rjs makes their mouth water. They can't get enough of their dirty CRJs getting paid low wages, they want to do it in a 100 seater. Prostitutes is one word that come to mind. Pretty sad.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

with little opportunity to move on lately, I don't think it's unreasonable to desire better paying equipment. Some of us are getting to the point that starting over is not worth it but we'll keep trying. In the end, it's become a terrible career choice.

 

[wms]

It's possible that with the consolidation and possible liquidation at the legacies, the best future opportunities might be growth of existing smaller airlines that have cash in the bank, lower debt ratios and less overall baggage.

Indy and Midway and some others tried and failed. RAH is in a tricky position if they lose their existing contracts. But if there are fewer legacies there is less resistence to future expansion of smaller airlines. Most of us would rather go to legacy carriers, but now we have to be open other options, as well. The times, they are a-changin'.

 

[i fly boxes]

Screw the flow and screw Delta, im headed to United baby! The new biggest airline in the world - Delta is so yesterdays news.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

You may just get the jets in an award. That way the flow dies with the certificate. Who knows, but they have always wanted to sell cps. Awarding the jets without the certificate would allow them to alter the FFD deals with the existing 76 airframes.

Just an idea.

 

[Abernathy]

You may just get the jets in an award. That way the flow dies with the certificate. Who knows, but they have always wanted to sell cps. Awarding the jets without the certificate would allow them to alter the FFD deals with the existing 76 airframes.

Just an idea.

ASA getting EMB175s? That'll be the day..

 

[zawillif]

Got word from a source that the union head honchos were in a meeting at A-Tech today. Supposedly there will be an announcement by Friday evening.