ASA Memphis base rumor?

[JumpersAway]

Off topic, but..


If you have to have to form an "OM answer desk" to alleviate confusion on your dumbass OM and checklists, then you've done a bang-up job. Way to go guys.

LOL! Yea, it's pretty sorry. The tech brief isn't specific enough, nor are the expanded procedurs, IMHO. Seems quite a bit of that stuff is "change for the sake of change". Why does the F/O now have to reach across my face to get the "non foward facing lights"????? It's irritating- just let me get them when I want them.

 

[zawillif]

I don't necessarily think the Dallas crowd would take the Memphis stuff. They didn't take Dulles, and there is a rediculous number of flights up there between Dulles and Dallas. I guess people are terrified of change......

Or of the 200

 

[ohplease!]

Off topic, but..


If you have to form an "OM answer desk" to alleviate confusion on your dumbass OM and checklists, then you've done a bang-up job. Way to go guys.

I've seen a lot of checklist and OM changes between different A/C over my many years......this is by far the worst. We'll be lucky not to have a crew have an accident because of this. Be careful boys and girls...

 

[79%N1]

Dumb, dumb, dumb! Do they even consult us before this stuff?!?!

 

[wms]

The new OM revision 3 is modeled after other airlines that have a better track record than us for the things mentioned in the tech brief. There will be another revision with AQP that goes even further. First you need to read the tech brief, the reason the answer desk was put there is because many pilots are throwing the brief out. Next, you gotta read the OM (expanded and flight sections), because most of the changes in OM procedures is beyond just the checklist items.

The fact is, most pilots that have been getting observations haven't even been using the procudures that were changed in revision 2 or even revision 1.

 

[wms]

Dumb, dumb, dumb! Do they even consult us before this stuff?!?!

This is probably the first checklist that wasn't just put together by some goober behind a desk. Most of it was done by pilots that fly the line the most, and spend a lot of time observing where mistakes are made.

Like anything else, it will get evaluated on line and changes/improvements will be made.

 

[JumpersAway]

This is probably the first checklist that wasn't just put together by some goober behind a desk. Most of it was done by pilots that fly the line the most, and spend a lot of time observing where mistakes are made.

Like anything else, it will get evaluated on line and changes/improvements will be made.

I understand that many pilots don't read the brief, even though I would like to think they would. However, I also know that if I'm reading the thing 5 times, and it's still vague, it wasn't written properly. Writing is my thing, and it's difficult to stay connected to the reading.

In regard to the "Tech Brief"- give me what I need to change. I don't care why it was changed, and I don't care to know how many deviations have resulted from our previous way of doing business. That's an ERC stat I don't care to burn brain cells on. In the words often muttered in the movie "Drag Net"........."Just the facts, Ma'am".

 

[1080P]

The changes are minimal for the most part, like five proc changes and are the result of confirmed data of poor performance by crews (foqa, losa, line checks and other observations). Is it better to change things or keep sending out emails which no one reads. I've never understood why people who get paid by a company to fly their airplanes have a prob with them telling you how to fly them. Is the fo turning lights and a gen on, or saying the altimeters a thousand times really that big of a deal, if that screws you up maybe you should seek work elsewhere.

 

[1080P]

In regard to the "Tech Brief"- give me what I need to change. I don't care why it was changed, and I don't care to know how many deviations have resulted from our previous way of doing business. That's an ERC stat I don't care to burn brain cells on. In the words often muttered in the movie "Drag Net"........."Just the facts, Ma'am".

Agree

 

[LazyLightnin']

The checklist must be run in order for it to work. You telling me that attempting to takeoff with no flaps and entering the wrong altimeter are a result of anything other than not running, what was at the time, a perfectly good checklist?? Come onnn...

 

[buscap]

Checklist changes always seem to suck, demonstrating just how much we get by on habit as opposed to intelligence and attention to detail.

I don't like a few things about it; takeoff check lights in particular, but it will work.

The tech brief sucked butt!!! The tech writer should be beat silly with sock in a soap.!!!

 

[1080P]

The majority will always pay for the minority.

 

[wms]

I do agree a tech brief just telling us what we should be doing now, without a lot of extraneous info, would be good. That has been a problem in the past, and probably why some pilots are still doing things the old, old way.

The planning discussions about the procedures and what the procedures would be were very clear. The tech brief sould've been as clear.

 

[twott driver]

Airlines, dumbing down flying to the most incompetent person they've hired, and making everyone else pay the price. The first chance I get, I'm getting the f%ck out of this miserable industry.

 

[79%N1]

So the Captain sits with his thumb up his rear on the after start, while the FO is wailing away like a madman....instead of dividing the tasks like the old way, where the Capt flips the switches right in front of his face. It takes a bit longer to complete this now, as well.

Also, why was yaw damps taken off the originator? Isn't that where we are setting proper switch position for all systems, yet now we just skip over this and get it later? Strange.